Req: Coastal artillery / fixed land artillery

[kinghk]

The coastal artillery:



Dunno what the English model description is, it was never exported to anyone except Norway. We refers to it as 75mm turret canon, the Swedish description is 75/57.



Ditto.



This is the bigger brother, the 120mm turret canon or 12/70.



Get some.



The candy store. Each grenade weights 46 kg, the grenade istelf weights 24 kg. Maximum range is 25000 meter, the batteries usally have 2 or 3 canons each, the canons is able to fire about 28 grenades a minute. The watercooled barrels is able to fire atleast 200 rounds without stop. The canons are 18 meter tall and weights 65000 kg. It's built on huge springs to be able to survice a nuclear attack.



Emergency exit straight ahead.




Observation cupola.



Command central on 120mm turret canon.



Some older stuff, this is a 150mm Skoda built SKC/32




Torpedo in the water.



Hellfire missil used for mobile coastal artillery.



Hellfire missil, this pic was taken when the Norwegian Coastal Artillery were testing it out at Grøtavær fort.



127mm canon at Bolærne fort. Used for training after the 75mm turret canons was installed.



150mm SKC/28 canon at Brettingen fort.



ditto



127mm SKC/32 canon at Fjøløy fort




Ditto I believe.



A couple 150mm SKC/28 canon at Grøtavær fort.

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105mm SKC/32L canon at Krossodden fort.



Yet another pic from Skrolvik fort.



Opening for torpedo in an underground torpedo fortress.


ditto.




3 pics from the entrance to a torpedo fort at an undisclosed location in Norway.

If know that atleast you Swiss and Finnish guys got a lot of similar stuff, show me the pics.

[sir-chimp]

That is awsome thank you for posting it.

[Hrvoje]

Great pics!!!

[Lazarou]

Impressive pics, thanks for posting them.

If know you Swiss and Finnish guys got a lot of similar stuff, show me the pics.

For some reason Finnish coastal arty pics are hard to find, but I found some pics from the coastal artillery museum in Kuivasaari near Helsinki:
http://www.hannulat.net/sakari/kuvia...ari/kuvat.html

A few examples of the currently operational systems:


130 53 TK (130 mm turret gun)


100 56 TK (100 mm turret gun, made of a T-54/T-55 turret)


MTO-85 (anti-ship missile m/85, aka RBS-15)


The new coastal missile Eurospike ER.
Note: the old people are not its operators, the guy in the uniform is.

[Morboute]

the old ones are actually OMFG DELTAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!11


and great pictures btw.

[afrographX]

really nice stuff, would like to see more of it

[1Cie GevGn]

Fixed defenses; a monument to the stupidity of men. Who knows where's its from?

I visited the Belgian fortress of Ebel-Emael several times. A huge fortress, with massive coupola's, overlapping machinegun turrets,anti armour defenses and miles and miles of underground corridors. A complete city underground. 1200 men operated it. On the 9th of May 1940 they were attacked by 2 officers and 98 men. 3 days later the fort was surrendered. Belgian commanders called artillery from other forts down on their own fort, counterattacks were made, but nothing helped. And it was just the beginning. Great place to visit.

[Lazarou]

Fixed defenses; a monument to the stupidity of men. Who knows where's its from?

I agree.
I'm amazed how the Norwegians seem to still have fixed artillery and fortifications in extensive use when the Swedish and Finnish defence forces are trying to get rid of them. The're too inflexible as weapon systems and easy targets for precision-guided weapons and other tools of modern warfare.

[attackong]

Kick Ass Photos !

[Kekkonen]

I agree.
I'm amazed how the Norwegians seem to still have fixed artillery and fortifications in extensive use when the Swedish and Finnish defence forces are trying to get rid of them. The're too inflexible as weapon systems and easy targets for precision-guided weapons and other tools of modern warfare.

During the Winter they were used quite successfully, except the battles in the quoted text belove they safeguarded the southern coast from an amphibious Soviet landing from Estonia/soutern Karelia. During the continuation war they were not used that much due to the Gulf of Finland being blocked for the Leningrad Navy. The success however was probably the reason why they kept the fixed coastal artillery system in the cold war. I´m sure heavy anti-shipping missiles available from the 1950´s would have been prefered, but no money for that. But noteworthy is that they already in 1939 got quite heavy damages and casualties, and of course would be totally slaughtered with modern guided precision-munitions.

- 1 December 1939 a short firefight between the Russarö fort (6 * 254 mm/50-BS , 6 * 75 mm/50-CM) and a soviet Task Force of cruiser Kirov accompanied by two class G destroyers. One of the destroyers was damaged and the soviet forces withdrew.

- 14 December 1939 a short firefight between the Utö fort (4 * 152 mm/45-C) and two soviet class G destroyers, which ended when a hit was spotted and the destroyers withdrew behind a smokescreen. Through the smoke explosions were seen and heard , and after the smoke dissipated only one destroyer was seen afloat.

- on 18 and 19 December 1939, a strong Soviet Task Forces led by battleships Marat and Oktjabrskaja Revolutsija bombarded the Saarenpää fort (6 * 254 mm/45-D , 2 * 152 mm/45-C) with the help of dozens of fighters and bombers. The Oktjabrskaja Revolutsija attacked on 18 December and Marat on the next day. The bombardment on the second day ended at 12.55 A.M., when a hit was seen on Marat's stern and it stopped firing and withdrew.
The Finnish fort suffered heavy material damage and some personnel casualties, but it was not knocked out.

[Maskirovka]

I agree.
I'm amazed how the Norwegians seem to still have fixed artillery and fortifications in extensive use when the Swedish and Finnish defence forces are trying to get rid of them. The're too inflexible as weapon systems and easy targets for precision-guided weapons and other tools of modern warfare.

The norwegians are scrapping them as well. IIRC the newest norwegian 12/70 fortress was built in 1995 or something like that but are beeing/gonna be scrapped all the same.

In the cold was however these fixed coastal artillery played a strong key in the nordic contries defences. They were extremely hard targets to knock out and was very important against a seaborne foe, specially in the uniqe swedish archipelogy.

However, I´m amazed that the finns still are fixed on mobile coastal artillery and have´nt got rid of it all together. Do the finnish politicians really see the russians attack them from the sea in a 10 year period from now?

[Kekkonen]

However, I´m amazed that the finns still are fixed on mobile coastal artillery and have´nt got rid of it all together. Do the finnish politicians really see the russians attack them from the sea in a 10 year period from now?

The training for conscript crews to mobile coastal artillery, as in Russian 130 mm M-46 cannons, has recently been stopped and the cannons will be withdrawn from service, Finnish Navy´s Nylands brigade had a field artillery regiment with 36 of them. If you are referring to the MtO-85 missiles (SAAB Rbs 15) mounted on trucks they recently got an upgrade to boost their range, accuracy, resistance to jamming signals, and service life. The newly purchased Eurospike ER (that was bought to replace the cannons btw) will be in service for many years to come and are more flexible than the old cannons, meaning that they can bring them with them on missions abroad and so forth.


130 K 54 aka M-46

[Lazarou]

However, I´m amazed that the finns still are fixed on mobile coastal artillery and have´nt got rid of it all together. Do the finnish politicians really see the russians attack them from the sea in a 10 year period from now?

Well, they have attacked us during the last 1000 years... how many times? I believe that's a reason good enough to be ready for anything and anytime, whether it will happen an hour/month/year/decade/century from now.
And a 10-year time span isn't long enough when planning tactics, strategy or arms purchases.

[TuNeRsHaRk]

Awsome Pictures, I was at the Old coastal artillery base at Oscarsborg, where the german Ship Blucher was sunk. and to my suprise they still had Modern artillery batteries there

These are the Old cannons that Sunk the german Ship Blucher during ww2







pretty interesting place to visit

[V/E]

Tons of pictures of Coastal artillery in this thread http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=50016