Snipers

[flanker7]

It's not a matter of ability, it's just that the head tents to move from side to side all the time making it a small and unpredicted target at long ranges, so, if imediate incapitation(spelling?) is not an issue you should go for centre mass.

[Royal]

Loong time since I did this - and I take Pete's comment on 100% as far as operational shooting goes

That said, my training both as a donor and a recipient throughout my career worked on the train hard, fight easy rule. The badge test (and it hasn't changed since I took it with an L42) involved a Fig 14 target (head shot) at 300m. That was the basic requirement to complete the course - not the standard expected of an in-role sniper.

My point is merely that any competant infantryman should be able to hit a head sized target with his service rifle at 100m - its hardly aiming high.

[flanker7]

I agree with you 100%. 300m pop-up head target(6 seconds) was part of qualification.
What I was saying, and I stop blabing here, is that head shots are not nessesary most times and don't worth the risk of a miss which risk is higher ar longer ranges.

[Pete031]

I think we are all on the same page....

[gafkiwi]

I think we are all on the same page....

Yeah just different teachings/tactics. Along with what Royal said, in NZ the badge shoot (not sure how similar to UK) for snipers cse/annual qual basically you have to be making the head shots/scoring shots to pass. Scoring circles are on targets ot to 400m.

[Pete031]

With what weapon?

[homerjsimpson94]

I think we are all on the same page....

Pretty much what I was taught on my course, mind you, that was 10 years ago, that said, not too much has changed since then (WRT target areas) besides the implementation of a few new weapon systems and a whole bunch of math and stuff....

[gafkiwi]

With what weapon?

L-96A1 AW, Even with our old fixed 10x scopes (now 3-12x vaires) a head shots (Fig 14 tgt) at 200m is pretty easy, considering to get full points per hit in a badge test you must hit the 10cm circle in the centre of it at 200-300m. The shoot is from the 80's when the parker hale was the in service sniper rifle.

[Pete031]

Parker Hale is the course rifle here awell.

[gafkiwi]

Parker Hale is the course rifle here awell.

The parkerhale model nzdf used was about 5-6yrs before my time, and they were apparently quite tempremental. They say the badge shoot was a hell alot more of a challenge then than it is now with the AW.

[peter.pl]

Polish soldiers in Afghanistan






source: http://www.wp.mil.pl/pl/index/

[He219]

Hires

BABADAG TRAINING AREA, Romania — A Romanian soldier with the 33rd Posada Mountain Battalion based in Curtea de Arges, Romania, uses a scope to get a better view of the opposing forces during a field exercise, Sept. 26. Troops with the 33rd Posada Mountain Battalion trained side-by-side with Soldiers of the 4th Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment based in Vilseck, Germany, to gain a better understanding of each other's techniques for Joint Task Force-East's third annual exercise. (Joint Task Force-East photo by Sgt. Marla Keown)

[Steelcoreammo]

Polish soldiers in Afghanistan






source: http://www.wp.mil.pl/pl/index/

Cool shots thanks for posting, GO POLAND

[marek]

Hi all, I found some nice pics at DefenseImages! Sorry if any repost.

A sniper with an L115A3 rifle checks the ground ahead of a patrol from X Company, 2nd Battalion the Parachute Regiment in Afghanistan. The patrol was part of Operation Oqab Tsuka which delivered a vital second turbine to Kajaki hydro-electric power station. It was the biggest operation that British Forces had been involved in since being in Southern Afghanistan.

A sniper provides cover with an L115A3 rifle as a British Paratrooper patrol crosses open ground operating in the Upper Sangin Valley, Afghanistan. At Forward Operating Base (FOB) Inkerman, B Company 2 Para were the first troops to operate in the green zone for the entire summer season of 2008. Patrolling the local area was very intense with patrols regularly coming under attack from enemy forces some of which were just 30 metres away. The Operating Base and its men play a vital role stopping Taliban fighters moving within the Sangin valley and disrupting vital reconstruction projects in the area.

A sniper team takes up a position on the roof of a newly captured compound in the Upper Sangin Valley, Afghanistan. At Forward Operating Base (FOB) Inkerman, B Company 2 Para were the first troops to operate in the green zone for the entire summer season of 2008. Patrolling the local area was very intense, with patrols regularly coming under attack from enemy forces some of which were just 30 metres away. The Operating Base and its men play a vital role stopping Taliban fighters moving within the Sangin valley and disrupting vital reconstruction projects in the area.

A sniper provides cover with a L115A3 rifle as a British Paratrooper patrol crosses open ground operating in the Upper Sangin Valley, Afghanistan.

A sniper serving in Afghanistan on Operation Herrick 10 with the Sniper Platoon, D (Fire Support) Company, 2nd Battalion, The Mercian Regiment, with his .338mm L115 A3 sniper rifle.

A Royal Marine sniper team from 42 Commando looks for targets during cycle four of Operation Aabi Toorah in Afghanistan. The sniper is using a powerful L115A3 rifle whilst his partner covers his back with a standard SA80 assualt rifle fitted with a forward vertical hand grip

A sniper team watches the street, while other British soldiers, from 3 Para and 1 Royal Irish, conduct clearance patrols in and around the town of Sangin, Helmand Province, Afghanistan..

[Aibeethoven]

A Dutch sniper. I don't know if he's a sniper from the KCT (commando's) or a SLA (designated marksman).

(no repost I hope....)