Snipers

[Thfela]

[Hyde]

Any information on why it didn't pass tests? They always seemed to be pretty reliable/effective from all the tests/propaganda HK spewed out about them.

If it isn't good enough for the Bundeswehr, who is it good enough for...

There's your answer.

This one strikes me as funny: "The German Army, like the rest of NATO is seems, is looking for a Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR)."

I remember just a few years ago a lot of people from Western countries were saying that the Designated Marksmen in some former Eastern Block countries were outdated, unneeded, better replaced by snipers etc.... just because their armies didn't have them. Now the same people will explain how great it is to have a designated marksman...

@Thfela
Nice M-93!

[wild_wild_wes]

source http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...rmy-dmr-tests/

Anyone know what barrel length was used in these tests? 16", like the one pictured above?

[goose36]

yeah mate we deployed with 417s as part of our zone mix.....to say that the 417 is inaccurate is to say your shooters are twank IMHO. I got great groups at 800m with a zeroed 417. Has a b*stard of a kick but that's expected....German softies used to the kinder 36, I am sure.

what optics were you running?

[variable]

Bundeswehr snipers in the Char Darrah district:

[Big Mo]

chances for hires of these nice picture are very rare, i guess....

[Jass]

Amazing pictures! thanks for posting!

[Morris]

Those pictures are great! They show so much but reveal so little, so there isn't the need for a huge black box on their faces

[hOMEr_jAy]

chances for hires of these nice picture are very rare, i guess....

Sorry for the not-so good quality, highest resolution I found:





And a bonus:

[nuedel]

Swiss Snipers:
http://www.explorateur.ch/explo/phot...iflu%20zf.html

[TANGO19DB4]

Wondering, to those who "do".
What's your preffered kit ?
Chestys, vests or belts ?

I'm not just talkn for Range ( plink ) time. I'm looking for ideas from those who have "battle" tested kits as a Sniper or DM and would grab this to go.
I'm seeking some knowledge, as I'm planning my 2011 Training Calendar and hope to get out to a good Sniper / DM or Precision Rifle course.

Just wondering I have a bunch of options and I dig on the chestys, mostly. I like the belt kit during the summer months, but...
realalisticly ya really gonna carry all the options.

So if you had to narrow it down to the 1- and only what would it be ?

I know.. At the end of it all, it's the end-user's preference.

[SchnitzelHunter]

Wondering, to those who "do".
What's your preffered kit ?
Chestys, vests or belts ?

I'm not just talkn for Range ( plink ) time. I'm looking for ideas from those who have "battle" tested kits as a Sniper or DM and would grab this to go.
I'm seeking some knowledge, as I'm planning my 2011 Training Calendar and hope to get out to a good Sniper / DM or Precision Rifle course.

Just wondering I have a bunch of options and I dig on the chestys, mostly. I like the belt kit during the summer months, but...
realalisticly ya really gonna carry all the options.

So if you had to narrow it down to the 1- and only what would it be ?

I know.. At the end of it all, it's the end-user's preference.

These kit questions don't really go down well here.....

Anyway...you did answer your own question already!

It's all up to the users preference...... if it works use it....looks really don't
survive too long out there

[TANGO19DB4]

Yeah it seems like a pretty straight forward Q? tho. is it not...

I'm planning on attending a Class in 2011, I have several kits to choose from.
If you "DO" this ( ie: Sniper / SM ) what would YOU take to a class, if you too have several kits to choose from.
This would be the 1 piece, aside from my Pack and other essentials that I'd take as my Kit.

[kayaker]

If you're planning a lot of time on your belt buckle then traditional webbing seems the obvious choice for me. Allows for plenty of ventilation and getting close to mother nature.

[BlackhawkCY]

as with most equipment you should narrow it down to which can support your role and from those which you feel most confortable in using.