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    Question Question of size

    I You look at "Black Hawk Down", You can see that MSG. Garry I. Gordon, has a Colt 733 with a silencer and an Aimpoint.





    So I ask You, why was he using a CAR-15 ? It has a shorter barrel, so accuracy is reduced because of that.
    SFC. Randy D. Shughart was using an M-14/M-21, and I think it is a better choice.


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    Because Black Hawk Down is a movie, ie. "make believe".

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    barrel lenght has nothing to do with accuracy. it changes the muzzle velocity of the bullet, so it changes the fragmentation range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frens
    barrel lenght has nothing to do with accuracy. it changes the muzzle velocity of the bullet, so it changes the fragmentation range.
    Barrel length has quite a bit to do with accuracy.

    And, to second Uncle Sam... Don't ever ever use something from Hollywood as a reference for real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frens
    barrel length has nothing to do with accuracy. it changes the muzzle velocity of the bullet, so it changes the fragmentation range.
    2 + w/ James: The material which Frens wrote is a mish mash of kabash. Time should be spent on studying correct and authorized information on ballistics, to include the affects of barrel lengths, types. Lastly,it is necessary to fully learn the effects of various ammo.

    Otherwise, the blind will never see.
    W/regards !

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    Dear thread starter,

    You are a knucklehead.

    Your pal, me.

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    Two things, firstly its a movie. While movies like this are much better about weapon accuracy then most, they're not perfect. That's not the point of the movie.

    Secondly, if you notice, the suppressor goes back practically to the FSB. I've made this observation and the comment that I am about to make before. If it was screwed into the barrel instead of the FH, you'd be able to see more barrel on an 11.5" weapon (such as the Colt Model 733). This leads me to believe this is a slip-over reflex style can obtained for the movie, and actually not an uncommon style of suppressor used by US elite forces before new cans were developed.


    picture for clarity

    Also, everytime I hear someone use the term CAR-15 I just have the urge to educate. Go here and learn.

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