Reply With QuoteWoWOriginally Posted by maxo100
This is the fifth ship of Clase “Sveti Mihovil”5th Thanks for the correction, Ive lost my count.
Annyone know how much is built till now already, together count small + big?
Tnx
Exports of Croatian military industry in 2011. amounts to 580 million kuna
Exports of armaments and military equipment from the Croatian in 2011. was approximately 580 million, unofficial sources Defender.hr. Exported as pistols and rifles, helmets, equipment for demining, small arms, and other protective equipment, service and overhaul of the U.S. warship.
Military equipment and weapons were exported to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, European Union, Guatemala, Philippines, Kenya, Bosnia, Slovakia, Poland, Greece, USA, Slovenia, Great Britain, Spain, Czech Republic, Italy, Kosovo, Germany, Hungary, Malta , Egypt, Argentina, Colombia, Namibia, Kazakhstan, Singapore, Russia, Turkey, Peru, Malaysia, India and New Zealand.
Data on exports of military equipment and weapons suggest that the domestic arms industry, despite the difficult conditions in global markets managed to maintain the level of export of its products and services.
More 2008th value of exports amounted to about 400 million, and the best was achieved 2009.kada export performance in the amount of 660 million kuna. This was followed by two years the great crisis in the global economy, and consequently, have considerably reduced the military budget for the procurement of military equipment which will be the case with the 2012th
http://www.defender.hr/republika-hrv...ijuna-kuna.php
WoW
This is the fifth ship of Clase “Sveti Mihovil”
Annyone know how much is built till now already, together count small + big?
Tnx
Croatian Armed Forces medics course
Defender.hr has published three new articles.
First one is above the sending of 14 Patria armed with konsberg turret to an exercise in Germany.
Seems there still some problem with british made communication ecquipment from UK, but not so big to endanger partecipation to said exercise.
http://www.defender.hr/republika-hrv...m-krstenju.php
Second one are good news:
This year's biggest operative meeting of NATO staff commander would be held in Zagreb 18-20 of may, immediately following the summit of Nato nations in Chicago.
http://www.defender.hr/republika-hrv...rzane-u-rh.php
Way less good the thirth one: it seems that presentation of long term development p0lan for armed forces is in strong delay, with negattive effect on the armed forces operativity.
http://www.defender.hr/republika-hrv...na-razvoja.php
About that last one, you have however to consider that the recent signing of production contract for second batch of VHSes and for individual ecquipment would hopefull ease situation, almost for this year on.
http://www.jutarnji.hr/kupit-cemo-po...skupo/1012242/
Another update regarding fighter component, apparently a decision will be made in the next two months. The most likely choice is acquisition and modernization of 8 adittional MiG-21Bis fighters from Ukraine. Another option is acuisition of second hand 4th generation fighters which was discussed here several times. However, a very interesting addition to this is Israeli offer of 12 Kfir C.60s for 235 million euros made during President Josipović's visit to Israel last month.
Personally, the Kfir would be an excellent choice. It is a very capable fighter which can add significant strike and BVR capability for a very low price. It could give up to 15 years of service, at which time economy would recover enough to allow for purchase of 4.5th or even 5th generation long term replacement. MiG-21 option would only buy us 5-8 years untill replacements would be needed and that is not enough time.
The cheapest option other than Kfir is 12 MiG-29s for 90 million euros, but that is politically unworkable.
The article doesn't state that we will upgrade our existing 8 (out of 10 currently operational) MiG-21s but only 4 and add another 4 to these. This means that we won't be operating 14-16 fighters but only 8, a number that is far too low.
Fascinating..
Hungary which is basically a bankrupt country will in the end provide air policing over Croatia, basically a self-cancelling country.
All this journalist weekly mumbo-jumbo about Dutch F-16s, Jemenite Fishbeds forgotten in Odessa etc etc is b.s.
Fact is Croatia has long ago lost every ambition in the field of its armed forces - with exception of multinational missions.
And of course, commander in chief will every day choose pensions over fighters because army of elderly voters brought him to Pantovčak hill in the first place.
Anyway, Croatia will be either the only NATO member state with antiquated Soviet planes as core of its air defence or the largest NATO member (territory/population) without its own air force.
Ah, it's nice to be first in something..
Gvozdansko - perfectly put!!!
If we really do give up our fighter force, Croatia will be the largest European country without any means of defending its airspace above 5,000 meters. Aside from some Igla and Strela 2M MANPADs and mere 9 Strela-10 short-range SAMs, we will not possess any other system of air-defence, nor fighters, nor combat helicopters or trainers, nor medium or short-ranged surface-to-air systems.
ironically, we are the last country in Europe to have led a war against another country!!! Bravo for our politicians and all the governments in the past 12 years. The fact that Switzerland, a neutral country sorrounded by friendly neighbors which has not been in war for more that 100 years, can be so persistant in maintaining its air force (33 F-18 + 22 Gripen) makes our politicians' decisions all the more frustrating and short-sited. But... history might repeat itself and we might again use old An-2s as bombers... just because some knucklehead wanted to "save money"!
This become sick...
Keep in mind that Krešimir Žabec wrote it. I'm a pilot and a colleague of mine, who is good friends with a few of our veteran fighter pilots, told me that the Air Force is pushing for the MiG option. The plan is to buy 8 MiG-21s and bring them to bisD standard and to extend the service life of our own surviving MiGs, giving us 18 fighters.
It may sound a bit nuts but I sent a brief message to our President yesterday via Facebook stressing the need to maintain our fighter squadron in the future. As always, I did not expect a response, but to my astonishment, he answered in less than 3 hours and said (and I quote in English):
Dear Sir, XY,
I assure you that we will do our outmost best given the current circumstances. However, regardless of the final outcome, we will not lose our ability to independently defend our airspace.
Sincerely, Ivo Josipović
If this does not mean that our AF won't lose its fighter squadron(s), I don't know what does!
I agree, if the Commander-in-Chief said we'll retain fighters even if they have to be MiG-21s, then we will.
Anyway, here's another interesting article from Jutarnji list:
http://www.jutarnji.hr/kotromanovic-...ioti-/1012873/
Basically, Kotromanović said in a radio interview that he will no longer tollerate cell service providers using MoD's relays free of charge the way they have done for the past 15 years. He also said that landline contracts will be given to other service providers who will give a better deal.
Looks like he is every bit the man we all hoped him to be. Good job minister!
Interesting pic on this article about DD factory,looks like original article is from Vjesnik 22.02.2012. but to bad I can find it,maybe it has some better,bigger pic but i doubt it.
some work is being done on the tanks, dont know how old the pic is, here: http://www.militarium.eu/article.aspx?ID=7773
The pic is 3-4 years old, it's definitely not of recent date. So far, 6-8 tanks have been modified to the M-84D standard. Full rate modernization is expected to start in 2013 once all Patrias have been produced. This programme will last till 2015 and will be far less expensive than the Patria acquisition. Once all tanks are modernized, a new batch of Patrias is expected but this has not been firmly decided on.
Oooh, finally something rational...
Well, this is finally a good news!
Posponing again tank modernization would have put the whole programme in yeopardy, as they would risk obsolescency as time go on, and insteadfuture new batch of Patrias would be still ready for M-80 substitution.
There would be also time to select a 30mm turret for them, istall and after it mix-match them with veicles of first batch or also get time to evaluate possible (tracked) alternatives.
In the end, however the ultimate gain of well balanced,flexible Army would be achieved while another timetable would have put it at risk.
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