Croatian Military Pictures! - Read the first post carefully!

[eaglefox]

Oh, the poster behind Lucić shows we are in fact trying to sell Degman upgrade for T-72/M-84 tanks. Funny, I though our government was actively trying to prevent Degman sales. And any other defense contracts for that matter.

[marcellogo]

Oh, the poster behind Lucić shows we are in fact trying to sell Degman upgrade for T-72/M-84 tanks. Funny, I though our government was actively trying to prevent Degman sales. And any other defense contracts for that matter.

The best thing that they would do to incentivate sales of M-84D or Degmans it is a very simple one: let's begin to trasform their own tank fleet!
No one in the world would easily introduce a weapon that are not adopted by armed forces of the country than produce them.

[Ivi]

Excuse me, but I have read that this is the result of a survey from the Delo newspaper that is for what I know a reliable source of information but it is still a newspaper and the fact that parlament have said that it will think about it, it is really subseguent to what i said: there is not any concrete proposal, nor for a joint air force, not for a joint bid to acquire modern fighters , nor for sharing facilities or simply digital data, nor for transfer Slovenian air policing deal from Italy and Hungary to Croatia.

Fact is, that of this all wide span of possibilities, all of them on my opinion perfectly possible and convenient, only the most absurd of all (the SloCro AF) was considered (or better invented) by mass-media, in order to make some fuss, adding tension between the two nations and sell more copies.

Excuse me I got this from HRT. Like I said the proposal is a stupid idea.

[Detective]

In every case is their loss. Both in money than in democratic maturity and above all in their own suzerainity.

We don't loose anything. Especially not in a financil way.

[marcellogo]

We don't loose anything. Especially not in a financil way.

Loose? Lose maybe. Don't know about it, no concrete proposal was ever made in every way, so atm it is not possible to know.
Let me articulate better what I said, so no one get offended: if would happen that following that survey result, based on something that doesn't exist and in the terms that was proposed by media has not any possibilities to exist, Slovenia would set back and stitch to the status quo without considering possiblealternatives, it would quite surely be...
all the things I have said before.
Better in that way? Now let's wait for outcomes and pass to other things, please

[eaglefox]

Guys, there's nothing new to add about this absurd SloCro AF idea. We all know that won't happen, fortunately. It would be like sharing a wife between two men. It's insane.

[signatory]

Looks like my guess was fairly accurate. The final agrement on participation seems to be missing but the ambition is there. (Update: SwAF says in Nov-4 newsletter they have an agreement for the possible participation of Croatian MEDEVAC helos in NBG. )

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Full article + Photos on the links.

Swedish Armed Forces

Croatian helicopters practicing with the Nordic Battlegroup
Published: November 4, 2010 at 11:18
Nordic Battlegroup

Since a few days back are two Croatian helicopters at F17 in Ronneby. They will practice together with the Nordic Battlegroup to be a possible support if the force is deployed in the first half of 2011.

In the continuing contacts with Croatia appeared the possibility to complement and reinforce the Nordic Battle Group with additional helicopters. The results of the negotiations has been that there is now a first agreement in place. It is what enables the Croats to participate in the NBG's final exercise Joint Action.

About twenty people

The Croatian contribution consists of two Mi-8 helicopter (as with any operation is changed to the Mi-17) and more than 20 people: pilots, engineers and medical personnel. They will be part of the NBG's air component Expeditionary Air Wing.

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[Detective]

Reasons why Slovenia doesn't plan to buy it's own (or jointly with Croatia) fighter planes:
Because the current solution (NATO aircrafts) costs 0 $/€!!!!
Because fighter aircrafts are HUGE investment and there are other MORE IMPORTANT projects that need to be done to increase safety of our soldiers.


A fact is that your prime minister was the one bringing this idea up, wonder why... (you have only few operational planes so you wether need to upgrade them or buy new ones).

And I won't listen to crap from the media how we are unhappy with Italiy as capability provider and how we pay 40 mio EUR for air policing per year!!

[marcellogo]

Reasons why Slovenia doesn't plan to buy it's own (or jointly with Croatia) fighter planes:
Because the current solution (NATO aircrafts) costs 0 $/€!!!!
Because fighter aircrafts are HUGE investment and there are other MORE IMPORTANT projects that need to be done to increase safety of our soldiers.


A fact is that your prime minister was the one bringing this idea up, wonder why... (you have only few operational planes so you wether need to upgrade them or buy new ones).

And I won't listen to crap from the media how we are unhappy with Italiy as capability provider and how we pay 40 mio EUR for air policing per year!!

Ok, Detective said that Slovenia pays nothing to Italy and (hungary) for air protection, question closed. Hurrà for Slovenia.

[Detective]

Here is the official statement of our MoD about Slovenian Air Policing.
http://www.mors.si/index.php?id=novica&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2622&tx_ttnews[backPid]=1&cHash=1f55a1d8e2

[SATNIK]

Enjoy:

Kalashnikov doing regular maintance

full afterburner

the best for the end


eaglefox:do you know what is this on Mil?

[eaglefox]

Wow, now those are some great pictures!

Let me add another one, not sure if I posted this one yet:



I belive that is a thermographic camera used for SAR. If I'm not mistaken, that's from Silver Wings, right? Damn good read.

[Ivi]

Eugen Kvaternik barracks , Gospic
9th Guard Brigade Vukovi

[Karl Agathon]

HRT reported on full overhaul of Libyan corvette by Kraljevica shipyard
From 10:28, Dnevnik of 06.11.2010.

http://www.hrt.hr/?id=enz&tx_ttnews[cat]=119

[marcellogo]

HRT reported on full overhaul of Libyan corvette by Kraljevica shipyard
From 10:28, Dnevnik of 06.11.2010.

http://www.hrt.hr/?id=enz&tx_ttnews[cat]=119

Any news about new croatian patrol ship?