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    Thanks to an article about Milpol 2011 published in italian magazine RID, I have get notice that together with BP 08M Bertha rifles Alan agency has developed also new AP round for both .300WM than .338 LM.
    AMMUNITION ARMOUR PIERCING TECH. DETAILS
    1. Calibre (mm) [CENTER].338 ( 8,6 x 70 ) LM[/CENTER] . 300 ( 7,62 x 66 ) WM
    2. Projectile weight (g) [CENTER]17,5[/CENTER] 11,8
    3. Core material [CENTER]Hard metal[/CENTER] Hard metal
    4. Dimensions [CENTER]in accordance with CIP[/CENTER] in accordance with CIP
    5. Muzzle velocity ( m/s ) [CENTER]940[/CENTER] 980
    6. Accuracy 100 m diameter 20 mm diameter 20 mm
    7. Accuracy 500 m diameter 90 mm
    8. Penetration on 550 m 17 mm steel ( 300 HB ) at angle of 0
    9. Penetration on 300 m 12 mm steel ( 300 HB ) at angle of 0
    I have so got a look on Alan agency web page and found them confirmed together with new pictures about rifles and data about the optics.I will publish those data here also but for the pictures please look at:http://www.aalan.hr/Product-Catalogu...er-Rifles.aspx
    TELESCOPIC SIGHT TYPE BERTA 3,5 - 18X50 mm
    1. Weight of Telescopic sight (g) [CENTER]1050[/CENTER]
    2. Weight of mount 295
    3. Magnification [CENTER]3,5 power to 18 power[/CENTER]
    4. Field of view 9,1 to 2,1 m/100 m
    5. [LEFT]Eye rilief (mm)[/LEFT] [CENTER]85 to 95[/CENTER]
    6. Change per click [CENTER]1 cm/100 m[/CENTER]
    7. Total clicks elevation [CENTER]20 MIL[/CENTER]
    8. Total click windage [CENTER]20 (10 left and 10 right)[/CENTER]
    9. Reticule FFP MIL/MIL ILUMINATED
    P.s. Quite interesting, weight of rifles (8.600 for WM, 8.800 for LM) are stated as including telescope sights so let' s lower it by almost 1050gr.
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    The Navy has trained 11 participants, completing the course for filling gas mixtures for diving, that can perform the demanding tasks of diving in deep waters. Ten participants were trained to operate the portable recompression chamber to assist divers. Civil-military cooperation once again proved to be impeccable, and the Croatian Navy, with the help of the Croatian Olympic Academy reached the knowledge, skills and abilities of diving troops of NATO countries.

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    At Gakovo training ground, course for military reporters was held.
    Foto, Video http://www.braniteljski-portal.hr/sa...hrvatska/13268
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    A recent flight of our MiG-21s from the cockpit:













    Found them on HRZ's facebook fanpage

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    Something we missed, an article on the Croatian Air Force in July issue of Combat Aircraft, on 8 pages. Pretty good read, although two pages do not allow zoom so you can't read them.

    http://it.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue...&prev=sub&p=88

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    Great pictures !I have particolarly appreciated the possibility of seeing the soviet-style green-blue painted cockpit in action.

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    Dec 1, 2011 - GUR-E MAR, Afghanistan - Croatian and German Forces operating out of Camp Marmal, Regional Command North, donated blackboards to an Afghan schoolhouse here as part of a Civil-Military Co-operation (CIMIC) project, Nov. 24, 2011. International Security Assistance Force Regional Command North supports Afghan National Security Forces in close coordination and collaboration in providing security and disrupting the insurgents' activities in order to protect the population, secure the highways and support the Afghan Border Patrol operations in the border areas and crossing points in order to set the conditions for economic, social and cultural development in key terrain districts. (Photo by U.S. Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Richard M. Wolff, RC-North Public Affairs)

    Dec 1, 2011 - GUR-E MAR, Afghanistan Master Sgt. Cvetkovic of the Croatian Army, operating out of Camp Marmal, Regional Command North, poses for a photo with a local child here, Nov. 24, 2011. The soldier was part of a Civil-Military Co-operation (CIMIC) project that donated new blackboards to an Afghan schoolhouse. International Security Assistance Force Regional Command North supports Afghan National Security Forces in close coordination and collaboration in providing security and disrupting the insurgents' activities in order to protect the population, secure the highways and support the Afghan Border Patrol operations in the border areas and crossing points in order to set the conditions for economic, social and cultural development in key terrain districts. (Photo by U.S. Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Richard M. Wolff, RC-North Public Affairs)

    Dec 1, 2011 - GUR-E MAR, Afghanistan - Croatian and German Forces operating out of Camp Marmal, Regional Command North, donated blackboards for a new school being built here as part of a Civil-Military Co-operation (CIMIC) project, Nov. 24, 2011. International Security Assistance Force Regional Command North supports Afghan National Security Forces in close coordination and collaboration in providing security and disrupting the insurgents' activities in order to protect the population, secure the highways and support the Afghan Border Patrol operations in the border areas and crossing points in order to set the conditions for economic, social and cultural development in key terrain districts. (Photo by U.S. Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Richard M. Wolff, RC-North Public Affairs)

    111124-N-XY282-075 GUR-E MAR, Afghanistan A Croatian soldier operating out of Camp Marmal, Regional Command North, poses for a photo with a local children here, Nov. 24, 2011. The soldier was part of a Civil-Military Co-operation (CIMIC) project that donated new blackboards to an Afghan schoolhouse. International Security Assistance Force Regional Command North supports Afghan National Security Forces in close coordination and collaboration in providing security and disrupting the insurgents' activities in order to protect the population, secure the highways and support the Afghan Border Patrol operations in the border areas and crossing points in order to set the conditions for economic, social and cultural development in key terrain districts. (Photo by U.S. Navy Petty Officer 1st Class Richard M. Wolff, RC-North Public Affairs)

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    Some good news for a change.

    It seems that the new Minister of Defense will be Ante Kotromanović. He was on active combat duty during the Homeland War, serving in special forces. He also servedas Commanding Officer of 126th Brigade and 4th Guards Brigade.

    This gives me hope that Croatian Armed Forces may finally get the attention, and the funds, they deserve. Someone who crawled through the mud with bullets flying around him won't let his budget be cut without a fight, and he might even get it increased in time.

    http://www.jutarnji.hr/kadroviranje-...brane-/992423/

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    Same news on Vecernji, with explanation about the whereabouts of the change.

    http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/kotro...-clanak-354309

    My two cents? Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiorellabel View Post
    Same news on Vecernji, with explanation about the whereabouts of the change.

    http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/kotro...-clanak-354309

    My two cents? Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu, Hvala Bogu.
    After two decades, Croatia has another ex-military as defense minister. What will be interesting to see is how much he will be able to push and protect the intrests of the Armed Forces. Today, on 20th anniversary of Croatian Air Force its fighter component future is still uncertain. All other projects form assault rifle to coast guard ships are either advancing slowly or are stalled. And focus of new government will most certanily be far away from the OSRH.

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    Yes, sadly you can see it also in the diminished activity in this tread: one month to fill up two pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho☻ View Post

    The good old "pesak" (sand) coveralls in use! Its amazing how well it looks and works even today.

    The designers would be proud

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    http://videoteka.novatv.hr/multimedi...ica-hrz-a.html

    A minute and a half was all that nova tv could spare for 20th anniversary of the Croatian Air Force, and I haven't seen anything about it on national TV's central news.

    Bottom line, our dear "klavirštimer" president says that we will "keep the capabilities, but not acquire new jets". In other words, we will loose what's left of our combat air force. In a few years, when push comes to shove, we'll have nothing to defend ourselves with, because bravery and skill of ground forces is for nothing if they can be attacked at will from the air.

    I just hope our new defense minister will fight this decision as hard as possible, since he knows first hand how much it means to soldiers when they see fighters flying overhead and now they are ours.

    Retired General Imra Agotić, first commander of the Croatian Air Force, spoke true when he said what our politicians apparently don't understand: giving our sky to foreigners is no different than having foreigners guard our land border.
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    Fiorellabel Yes, sadly you can see it also in the diminished activity in this tread: one month to fill up two pages.

    Here are some links with the inactivity, less politic more photos:

    http://www.osrh.hr/data/local_news_hr.asp?id=851

    Sniping in urban environments BSD

    http://www.osrh.hr/data/local_news_hr.asp?id=885

    In Zemunik completed training the Lithuanian Air Force

    http://www.osrh.hr/data/local_news_hr.asp?id=880

    http://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave...ila-hmmwv.html

    COURSE FOR DRIVERS HMMWV M1151

    http://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave...ogdanovci.html
    Completion of engineering works

    Celebration of the 20th anniversary of the Air Force and Air Defence

    http://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave...z-i-pzo-a.html

    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...2119115&type=1
    91.air base Pleso Facebook album
    http://martinahohnjec.weebly.com/1/p....html#comments
    91.Air base Pleso
    http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...4612678&type=3
    93.Air base Zemunik Facebook album
    Last edited by maxo100; 12-15-2011 at 03:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sousuke View Post
    Its amazing how well it looks and works even today.
    Well, nature hasn't really changed, has it?

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