Reply With QuoteThis is a good site, I hope everything gets ironed out over the whole pic thing. I guess this is the reason I don't post any pics on the web, to many problems.
The issue has been taken up the chain over Argyll. The guy above him is the problem. Also, I am getting the dodge over who posted it.
This is a good site, I hope everything gets ironed out over the whole pic thing. I guess this is the reason I don't post any pics on the web, to many problems.
thanks
Royal, thankyou for doing your best to cut down on the unnecessary risks being faced by SF personel. Having had my face splatted all over tv in the past AND being made to give my name in open court where I was giving evidence its good to see someone trying their best to put things right. Thankyou sir!
what about photos from official military journals,released by MODin the website (e.a. www.kam.lt) in pdf. format? It is hard to post them here,cause they R in langueage you would not understandSo I placed those photos in photobucket (low res.,no faces seen),I repeat,they R from off. MOD web journal. Is it ok to post that here?
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Look at Argyll's second post in this thread...
Your pics should be fine.Originally Posted by Argyll
The moral of the story is, if you don't want unaltered photos of yourself on the Internet, do not post them there.
It doesn't matter where you post them or how private you think it is, once a photo is digitally reproduced on the Internet, it has the capability to spread anywhere and everywhere without your consent. This is what got those SEALs in trouble, this is what causes these sorts of problems on this forum.
It sucks, but if you feel the revelation of your identity poses a danger, then you may just need to not be taking pictures of yourself and your friends at "work" and passing them around. To anyone. The Internet presents a whole different landscape for security, both personal and operational, and we all have to think about these things.
That sounds all well and good, but guys make a sacrifice. Some small measure of memory should not be the issue. Some of these pics were official photos meant for an internal OFFICIAL scrapbook to detail a Group's history. Let's not shift the blame. Stop pointing fingers at the operators. Next thing you'll know people will be blaming robberies on jewelry store owners for displaying their goods in the store window.
The blame is on those that posted the pics without permission and on the persons that refuse to do anything once they have been made well aware of the issue. To allow such actions to occur makes one part and parcel to the action and guilty as hell.
Yup.
If you put it out there, it's fair game, bad on you.
If it's OPSEC or PERSEC, then even worse on you.
Never-the-less, if you think it may be OPSEC or PERSEC, take a little personal responsiblity and don't post it, especially in an open source.
The mods have been working overtime to stem the flow of this, I applaud their efforts.
To those with questions please see:
CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY OPSEC GUIDANCE - AUG 05
THE VICE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY - SENSITIVE PHOTOS - FEB 05
Also see: ALMAR 007/04 - OPERATIONS SECURITY (OPSEC)
To me, it's not just about SOF personnel. Even if you are a regular joe in the forces, and you think it might not be prudent to post pictures of your work environment, don't.
It's about keeping security where it should be, and the Internet, well, let's just say that it's entirely possible to collate little bits here and there to form an average personal file on someone quite easily. The security landscape online is not something we should take for granted.
Read you PM and wind your neck in.
maybe if more people knew what opsec was and what it can do to people in the field, then they wouldnt post pics they get off of movies/tv shows... it would probally help if the spec ops and sf guys just wouldnt do interveiws or be in tv shows, but i dont think thats going to stop anytime soon...
It's not that simple.
Rarely, if ever, do SOF personnel volunteer to conduct interviews or t.v. shows. It's always something that has gone through channels and personnel are assigned to be interviewed or filmed. No one likes it, but it's part of the job.
i know this, i was simply using as a buffer for the next poor soul who posts a pic of one cause he thinks its cool.... i think more teaching on how it can effect people in the feild, kinda like what geraldo did and how he got kicked out of the country for it....
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