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    Quote Originally Posted by brianm423 View Post
    Hell, I'm sure SOCOMM doesn't really care.
    Exactly.....

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    Anybody else got any more photo's post them let's keep it up!

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    not 100% sure but

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    been trying to think of questions that hopefully arent opsec related for matchy.

    1. im trying to figure out how to word this... i used to hear like maybe in the late 80's/90's that seals didnt have a lot of work to do or special forces didnt all together after the whole soviet bloc collapse thing. was this true that work went way down post east bloc fall? i mean the whole tempo, were you guys bored of training?

    2. drug interdiction has always interested me since watching tom clancy's whatever the **** that movie was about.... (had to go to amazon to find name) clear and present danger! also there was a fun little comic book series made by Frank Lauria (former seal), i think in one of the books they were also doing anti drug hits. is this soemthing seals engage in regularly or was this all due to reagans "anti drug policies" and william sessions (FBI) "users are losers campaign?

    do special forces/seals still do drug interdiction today? (i know the current wars dampen such activities) or was that deemed rather pointless so we tighten up our side over here instead? i always thought it was cool hunting rich ****s deep in the jungle surrounded by pussy and large screen tv's.

    2. i was wondering about our training/working with the philipinos and others around the world, is that a way to use our special forces and be involved if we dont have as much action on our side? that way we can claim "advisory role" but actually take a more "hands on approach" ? i almost see that as a way after vietnam to become more pro-active with less toe stepping on foreign toes considering ops on their turf?

    3. what the **** is the deal with jordan in the middle east? are they just a more secular place in the middle east? apparently they keep their **** together concerning terrorists on their turf, have good (well for that part of the world) special ops, the whole region is at a boiling point, they are dead in the middle and yet seem rather immune or calm to the entire situation. are they just on point or do they play behind the scenes like the saudis, we just dont hear about it?

    4. after the panama airport incident http://www.specwarnet.net/miscinfo/patilla.htm , were decisions like the one Commodore John Sandoz made, largely removed from seal play? ie do seals nowdays get more decision making abilities on how they want to deploy/operate? i mean how ****ed was that to disregard a veteran seal then punish him for not going with your way? (mike walsh) wtf?

    5. **** marcinko is always raving on about how lots of officers are ****ed etc and always screwing with the teams concerning planning/policy. was **** just being a "rogue" rebel or is there a decent amount of beuracracy governing the teams hampering mission tempo and even overall effectiveness with lack of action?

    6. sub question to number 5. i know you said something about the glock, what your allowed to carry, being stuck with that big socom hk pistol etc. isnt that just more bull**** concerning bean counters and beauracracy? i mean seriously, if something works substantially better to varying degrees is there so much red tape your stuck with something else?

    7. when you said seal growth would suck (ie doubling size), you need to better utilize the guys you have now - then are my impressions from earlier correct in the sense that pre gulf war 1 etc, you guys were being under utilized and bored to an extent? i remember something from marcinko about him being pissed he never got to lead seal team 6 on a real "mission op" ie where they would kick ass/takenames, and i just sat there thinking, my God, i think they were around for a couple years or something before being used to any real extent, wtf? that just seems like a horrible waste of talent? for the love of God have them kill something!

    8. also in reference to question 7, it sounds like a problem of having the intel for you guys to do hits basically? or is it the uppers lack of wanting to utilize you? so is the cia falling short in giving you guys intel to work with? what about DIA and all those places? (i dont mean about iraq or afghanistan as those organizations are strikingly different than others in large cities etc.) but i mean in general, are we having trouble getting our forces a constant stream of actionable intel?

    9. why in the hell does the cia have gun teams ie sog, sad whatever the hell they are called? it seems like everybody now days is crossing over into eachothers turf which waters down the effectivesness of everything we already have in place? is that funding rivalry, or someone wanting to take more credit?

    10. you always surprise me with who you care for and who you dont ie havelston, marcinko etc.

    what about that Frank Lauria guy? i emailed him about his comic book a few times. he seemed like a nice guy, sucks his comic never caught on. so will you dash my decent view of him as well

    also what about mcraven? good, bad, decent? from a insder POV concerning effectiveness or just another ring knocker?


    sorry about my questions length, at first i thought i wouldnt have enough questions. then it just comes when i start writing. im just a nut.

    oh, and wtf is with DET getting cut from socom? i was so looking forward to marine shooters joining the equation dammit! was it really because you have enough door kickers and need more support or was it case of cold feet on marine corps part? i hear conflicting reports from army/marine rivalry. well at least you get more support now in the form of the new marine intel/training/helo thingy.



    i understand if anything is taboo concerning internal politics or opsec. thanks!
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    Match,

    PM is in your Box

    After Indoc were you in a "smurf boat crew". I know you hate books, well let's says you
    rather see them as self serving. I don't know if it is a thread or statement but I hope we get away from (I am not a MOd my opinion means squat) what the Team guys are wearing, shooting, etc.

    Let's get into what makes them!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I never knew after after indoc during phase one there is a bucket of ice and cold water if you feel you are falling asleep. Log PT, how the F did you do that?

    The grinder, dear Lord.

    Were you hard on a member who was slacking, who by the way was full of of sand and water because the instructors saw him not pulling his weight?

    What made me especially notice the professionalism was that the phase one I proctor said "If i catch anyone, even a stud, making fun of DOR, your gone, and you deal with me"

    Paraphrasing him, "good men come to BUD/S but it jus ain't for everyone, so no jokes about about the DOR or you will become one."

    Lastly, it is a book so no persec, D. Maclean? Your Team (5) 3 or 4 deployments before Coronado was the Corpsman for Phase I, geat guy as portryaed in the book.

    Stay Safe,

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    DOC had drill this wekend will see each other next weekend.

    Later.

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    is a Reunion Demo and/or Exercise for invitation only? or anyone can just drop by and watch?

    great find there Birdie, nice vid.

    I just hate the James Bond-ish they're playin hehehe.

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    I'll ask Ex about the Reunion (she recorded these).

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    PSD maybe ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by w1ldcard View Post
    how come ur "pretty sure"?
    mk 18s and Sigs are both issued weapons for SEALs so that seemed like a pretty big indication , but i may be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by James K View Post
    mk 18s and Sigs are both issued weapons for SEALs so that seemed like a pretty big indication , but i may be wrong
    what if the PSD's just want to use the arms u mentioned...wud that make them SEALs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by w1ldcard View Post
    what if the PSD's just want to use the arms u mentioned...wud that make them SEALs?

    You can what if all you want , it was just a guess. If they arn't SEALs well then they're some other type of HSLD guys that use the same gear as SEALs . Either way its a possibility.

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    SEALs from the looks of them...then again they could be anyone.

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