Reply With QuoteMatchanu I've read that soe time ago (think before 9/11) a SEAL candidate was given his Trident not right after SQT (like it is today) but after he did some time in a platoon. Any truth to that ?
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Matchanu I've read that soe time ago (think before 9/11) a SEAL candidate was given his Trident not right after SQT (like it is today) but after he did some time in a platoon. Any truth to that ?
Hello btw
from a SEAL demo (probably in San Diego)
Vietnam era SEALs
not sure if these two are SEALs
Matchanu I've read that soe time ago (think before 9/11) a SEAL candidate was given his Trident not right after SQT (like it is today) but after he did some time in a platoon. Any truth to that ?
Hello btw
Yeh.
It was STT (SEAL Tactical Training) then a 6 month probitionary period in a platoon, written and oral review cheifs board (intense), then a review by the chiefs to see if you are indeed worthy.
Typical was about a year to a year and a half to get your Trident after BUD/S.
What was the wash out rate like back then. During the probationary period?
It varied.
There were a number of "push" classes when the upper managment wanted numbers in the teams. BUD/S wasn't any easier, they just wanted more people to go through BUD/s. Still, durring the push classes, some asshats would slip through the cracks that had to be delt with at the team level.
Anyway, it was around 10-15% after BUD/S.
I figure that percentage hasn't changed at all. BUD/S is a proving ground to see if you can take what is dished out to you. At the team leval, they test that theory. It can be very brutal.
Mistakes in BUD/S may cause some personal or class leval discomfort, instructors are constantly watching you to make certain you don't do anything outragously stupid.
Mistakes at the team leval can or will get you, your teams mate, or your entire platoon killed. The margin for error is very slim, and not very well tolerated. Your learning curve needs to be fast and hard. There is a lot to learn in a short amount of time, and you had better retain this information and practice it untill you become near expert in it.
Training and proving yourself never ends, there is no "slack" period.
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When BUD/S instructors selected, do they get orderes to go to NSWC or is it if they "wish to do so" ?
Also, the official plans of the Navy is to increase the number of SEALs by 2012 without lowering th extremely high standard of it's elite Frogmen. But if I recal corectly, one of the "SOF truths" is that "SOF can not be mass produced".
A lot of SEALs might be dangerous ?
Can members be peered out? I know we do that here. Even long after training is complete, members can still be peered out.
Yup.
It has become more complex over the years, but it still happens.
The Chiefs in the team a perspective frogman is going to already knows the reputations they gained in BUD/S and know who is going to last and who needs to be weeded out. SOmetimes there are suprizes, guys that shined in BUD/S end up throwing their rucksack down the hall, guys who really struggled in BUD/S end up excelling in the teams, you just never really know.
Yeah, we call them glowsticks.... Shine bright for 8 ours or so and then dull right out. I think it is a good system as long as it doesn't get abused. And as long as there is a sufficient warning period.
BUD/S instructors are rotated in when they have to or want to perform a shore duty billit.
Official plans change with the winds or political climate. Mass producitng SOF untis is simply a bad idea all around. All it does is force more sub-groups of SOF units.
There is.
Unless it's a major safety/security violation, there is a long process and plenty of second chances.
Some guys get caught up in the "hey, I've proved myself in BUD/S, time to lay back and be the cool guy". They end up getting a knot jerked through their butts pretty quick, some take a few knocks to the head before it sinks in.
Type A personalities.
Hey Match...Can you tell me what is that bottle for on the back is used for of the operator firing at the target with the SIG..
Is it for short term underwater breathing?
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Mike
It looks like second chance air.
Probably a safety measure implemented after the helo accident in 98. I whole heartedly agree with this concept.
I never saw these durring my time in.
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