South African National Defence Force

[Nordwind]

Looking back through this thread I also discovered a few of my pics (including the Vlermuis) were reposts. Norwind had already put them up in March.

Don't worry my friend, you're a posting machine puting out great pictures and a wealth of information, keep it up and dont worry about reposting some pictures, it's not everybody who's gonna look through the entire thread.

[Ironsight06]

I agree it has proven its "battleworthiness" but it's not perfect. I know that the south a frican army wanted to replace it by a new vehicle. Initially a derivative of the Rooikat but now it is more likely a variant of the french VBCI. Could some one confirm this??

Best regards

reccelite

They will replace it with the Patria AMV:
http://www.army-technology.com/contr...ria_vehicles2/

EDIT:
Dark Avenger beat me.

[reccelite]

Certainly the Ratel has been around for some time now, and there are new requirements that it cannot meet to the full. So far only Patria Vehicles from Finland have submitted an offer for the Ratel's replacementbased on their AMV. It will be called the Hoefyster in South Africa if adopted for service and equipped with a LIW LCT-35 turret. here are pics of the prototype-please forgive if double posts.

For me the question is Range, The ratel had an exceptionally great Range. What about the Patria??

Best regards

reccelite

[baboon6]

OK thanks!!!! I think it's a wonderful vehicle but nothing more than an armoured truck.

Do someone know how many armoured regiments has de SA Army?.

Best regards

reccelite

Armoured truck? That's an infantry fighting vehicle my boy. How many trucks carry 20mm cannon? There also variants with a 90mm gun (in the same turret as an Eland), ZT3 anti-tank missiles, an 81mm mortar carrier, a turreted 60mm mortar, and a command vehicle. Ratel-90s in Angola successfully took on T-55 tanks- how many trucks can do that?

Armoured regiments-SA Army
Full Time Force:
1 SA Tank Regiment (Olifant MBT)
1 Special Service Battalion (Rooikat recce vehicle)
Part Time Force:
Natal Mounted Rifles (Olifant)
Umvoti Mounted Rifles (Rooikat)
Light Horse Regiment (Rooikat)
Pretoria Regiment (Olifant)
Regiment Mooirivier (Rooikat)

Regiment President Steyn (Olifant)
Regiment Oranjerivier (Rooikat)

It must be said that the part-time regiments are nowhere near full strength in troops or vehicles. Each could maybe put a squadron in the field. All units, both full and part-time, are under severe financial restraints regarding maintenance and training.

[pepepotamo]

Hello. I'm new in this phorum. I have to ask a question. Does anybody know anything about the Spanish designed Kynos Aljaba tank transporter, I think is called Cavallo in South Africa. Could you post any photos also?. Thanks a lot

[Ironsight06]

Hello. I'm new in this phorum. I have to ask a question. Does anybody know anything about the Spanish designed Kynos Aljaba tank transporter, I think is called Cavallo in South Africa. Could you post any photos also?. Thanks a lot

Some Aljaba's are in service in South Africa. I believe I saw a picture of one outfitted as a support/repair vehicle but I don't think they are used as tank transporters.

[playtym]

Does SA have a big homemade arms industry?
Great pics, especially the buggy!!

If I recall correctly it was in 1977 that the UN Security Council voted to adopt a resolution banning the sale of weapons TO South Africa.

Within ten years we had developed our local armaments industry to such an extent that in 1987 they had to pass another resolution - this time banning the purchase of weapons FROM South Africa.

Back in the day a major factor when buying South African (and Isreali) weapons was that you knew they had a proven track record, as they had been proven in actual combat situations. You weren't getting something that someone thought was a good idea - if it didn't perform we weren't using it.

[Dark Avenger]

Dark Avenger beat me.

Sorry about that...But it seems that we were on the same wavelength, hehe.

[Dark Avenger]

For me the question is Range, The ratel had an exceptionally great Range. What about the Patria??

Best regards

reccelite

If Patria was the only company to respond to a particularly demanding requirement, I think that they would have given thought to that as well.

[spetsnaz]

[Nordwind]

Nice pics! Especially the first one, he is a member of the STF if I'm not mistaken, not the army. But no difference, great picture none the less!

[BiZ]

[QUOTE][QUOTE=corporal punishment]

As promised. South African Police Special Task Force.
Poor quality as they are screen grabs from and old news report I video taped on them a few years ago.

The "kill-house" & range shots are training, everything else are actual operations.





does anyone have the video of this?

I've managed to 'rip' the video, or what I taped of it anyway.

How do I upload boys and girls?

[TallGuy]

I've managed to 'rip' the video, or what I taped of it anyway.

How do I upload boys and girls?

youtube.com

[Nordwind]

I've been waiting to see this for a long time, let us know when it's ready to go!

[BiZ]

youtube.com

That requires me to sign up and share it with a bunch of asshats, and that, is not going to happen.