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    Quote Originally Posted by drevil5000 View Post
    Queens College
    They still do cadets in South Africa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GETSOME View Post
    They still do cadets in South Africa?
    I think most schools have done away with it but every year Queens kicks of the reunion weekend with this parade.

    A few years ago the department of education tried to force the school to stop cadets saying it was racist and was promoting colonialism. The school refused to stop and nothing came of it.

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    [quote=baboon6;3221241]Depends what uniform they're in. In the Soldier2000 camos, all SA Army personnel wear rank insignia on the collar:









    Thanks for that info.
    I see he is wearing the tracker badge above his wings,i thought only the wings went on your left side.
    Is that badge above the skiet balkie still awarded?











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    [quote=GETSOME;3232036][quote=baboon6;3221241]Depends what uniform they're in. In the Soldier2000 camos, all SA Army personnel wear rank insignia on the collar:









    Thanks for that info.
    I see he is wearing the tracker badge above his wings,i thought only the wings went on your left side.
    Is that badge above the skiet balkie still awarded?/quote]
    Is he a major?
    What rank does he hold?

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    Is he a major?
    What rank does he hold?[/quote]

    His a RSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GETSOME View Post






    Is he a major?
    What rank does he hold?
    Hes a RSM.

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    Here are some pics of SAS Isandlwana (and SAS Amatola behind her) at the V & A Waterfront in Cape Town on Sunday. Unfortunately I didn't know the frigates (or the Brazilian and Indian ships) were going to be there. Otherwise a) I would have gone earlier so I could go aboard Isandlwana and b) taken my camera with (I left it in Joburg). Sorry for the poor quality, was using my cellphone.








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    Don't know if this has been posted before. This is a report on Exercise Young Eagle, an SA Army airborne exercise held last year, by McGill Alexander, a retired Brig Gen and former paratrooper. Some of you may have read his MA dissertation on the Cassinga operation.

    http://www.sainfantry.co.za/comment.php?comment.news.33

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    [quote=Piepalook;3238347][quote=GETSOME;3232036]
    Quote Originally Posted by baboon6 View Post
    Depends what uniform they're in. In the Soldier2000 camos, all SA Army personnel wear rank insignia on the collar:









    Thanks for that info.
    I see he is wearing the tracker badge above his wings,i thought only the wings went on your left side.
    Is that badge above the skiet balkie still awarded?/quote]
    Is he a major?
    What rank does he hold?
    Been away for a while.
    Cannot properly see badge on left.
    Badge on right above name and "skietbalkie" is reserve volunteer badge.
    Badge has been replaced with a new one, but it is still worn.
    Hope this picture is old, as both badges is old and has been replaced. Will not do for an RSM to be incorrectly dressed.
    Picture originally posted with this one shows the previous major's rank insignia. Now a finer and smaller badge. Hope picture of maj is also old one. We no longer tuck in our shirts. Went out with the "bunt" version (old habbits however die hard). "Balkies" is olso no longer as a rule worn on berrets.

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    [quote=exT70;3296146][quote=Piepalook;3238347]
    Quote Originally Posted by GETSOME View Post

    Been away for a while.
    Cannot properly see badge on left.
    Badge on right above name and "skietbalkie" is reserve volunteer badge.
    Badge has been replaced with a new one, but it is still worn.
    Hope this picture is old, as both badges is old and has been replaced. Will not do for an RSM to be incorrectly dressed.
    Picture originally posted with this one shows the previous major's rank insignia. Now a finer and smaller badge. Hope picture of maj is also old one. We no longer tuck in our shirts. Went out with the "bunt" version (old habbits however die hard). "Balkies" is olso no longer as a rule worn on berrets.
    The badge above his wings is a ratel,tracker badge.
    Do you know what the new skiet balkie and volunteer badge look like?
    The old volunteer badge ,was awarded to who,and what was the critria for its award?

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    [quote=GETSOME;3296259][quote=exT70;3296146]
    Quote Originally Posted by Piepalook View Post

    The badge above his wings is a ratel,tracker badge.
    Do you know what the new skiet balkie and volunteer badge look like?
    The old volunteer badge ,was awarded to who,and what was the critria for its award?
    Just the colouring on the "skietbalkie" and nametags that changed. All tags etc now in the green/brown which is part of the background found in the cammo of the shirt. Allows tags to blend in better with cammos than brown current version.

    Volunteer badge upgrade very much out of date as it only now replaces the "Castle" (as previously done many years ago with the erstwhile rank badges) with the new "pride of lions" shield. Further still very similar. Can be issued with volunteer badge after 5 years of volunteer service in the reserves. I don't wear one. Just another "thank you for arriving and being here" prize, not for doing anything. Same with 99% of the gongs going around. It seems they might even be giving out gongs for Ex Bata of last year. Next they'll hand out gongs for successfully going to the bog. We're becomming like the Yanks now.

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    [quote=exT70;3298548][quote=GETSOME;3296259]
    Quote Originally Posted by exT70 View Post

    Just the colouring on the "skietbalkie" and nametags that changed. All tags etc now in the green/brown which is part of the background found in the cammo of the shirt. Allows tags to blend in better with cammos than brown current version.

    Volunteer badge upgrade very much out of date as it only now replaces the "Castle" (as previously done many years ago with the erstwhile rank badges) with the new "pride of lions" shield. Further still very similar. Can be issued with volunteer badge after 5 years of volunteer service in the reserves. I don't wear one. Just another "thank you for arriving and being here" prize, not for doing anything. Same with 99% of the gongs going around. It seems they might even be giving out gongs for Ex Bata of last year. Next they'll hand out gongs for successfully going to the bog. We're becomming like the Yanks now.
    Do you know what year the volunteer badge first came out?
    How come i did get one ,was in the reserves from 1988-1998?

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    Same with 99% of the gongs going around. It seems they might even be giving out gongs for Ex Batta of las year. Next they'll hand out gongs for successfully going to the bog.

    Its Africa,soon they will be awarding those` bottle cap`type awards,like you see those generals in Africa wearing.

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    [quote=GETSOME;3298929][quote=exT70;3298548]
    Quote Originally Posted by GETSOME View Post

    Do you know what year the volunteer badge first came out?
    How come i did get one ,was in the reserves from 1988-1998?
    No idea when it was first issued, but was some time ago. Some members seem to wear ones that look older than they are!
    Getting one? Serve in a reserve unit and apply for one. No idea if you can get one after you leave (don't think it is like a medal in that regard). Reserve Units (Inf at least) countrywide are getting quite active again. Not like late 90's and early 2000's. There are now basically constantly people on deployment somewhere and units all over are growing again. Not too long ago only one or two units were up to anything (RldR & CTH mostly), but now it seems everybody is waking up. Will see how long it lasts.

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    Afternoon all, I started another thread about this, but was pointed here, so here goes. I was wondering how the SANDF compares to the older SADF, and if anyone here has served in/had experience of both? Since there seems to be a general feeling that the SADF were v effective, how does the newer force rate? I understand there was the Military Skills Development programme recently?

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