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    Quote Originally Posted by HammockWarrior View Post
    Finland has just started to investigate Patria for bribery allegations on a Slovenian and a Egyptian arms deal. Anyone want bet money on when the SA Army deal gets a closer look?
    http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...0-ec082ff629c6
    Was it the same deal or what?

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    Default SANDF Night Shooting Exercises

    Some scanned photos of SANDF equipment during night shooting exercises at the training area outside Bloemfontein.
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    Default SAAF Collapsing?

    Apparently the Airforce only has 20 fighterpilots.
    Since 2005 the Airforce has lost 91 pilots and 822 technicians.

    Although the Airforce denies that these pilots were victims of Affirmative action, the Freedom front plus (political party) is adament that AA is to blame.

    (South Africa is the only country in the world where a majority enforces Affirmative Action on a minority)

    Who will fly those nice new Grippen aircraft?
    Are they to be mothballed?

    http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A...367095,00.html

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    I doubt 20 pilots are enough to keep both the Hawk and Gripen squadrons going.

    Standing up a fighter squadron with a fourth generation fighter like Gripen, is no easy task even with experienced pilots.

    I wonder how many of those 20 pilots are combat ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john_549 View Post
    I doubt 20 pilots are enough to keep both the Hawk and Gripen squadrons going.

    Standing up a fighter squadron with a fourth generation fighter like Gripen, is no easy task even with experienced pilots.

    I wonder how many of those 20 pilots are combat ready?
    Most combat pilots have left.
    They drive Jumbo busses now!
    At much more pay.
    No way that they will come back.

    A numer of them are flying for Singapore air.
    Good money there!

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    The article says:

    "Altogether 123 pilots were currently under training in the SAAF."

    Is that one, two, three... three whole pilots ! Or actually 123? Sounds like quite a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signatory View Post
    The article says:

    "Altogether 123 pilots were currently under training in the SAAF."

    Is that one, two, three... three whole pilots ! Or actually 123? Sounds like quite a lot.
    Most fall out along the way.

    Of the 123 pilots in training most will fall out.
    A few will crash those new grippen fighters in training and die.
    A gloomy picture indeed.

    Those 123 pilots also include helicopter and transport pilots.
    Not many fighter pilots there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signatory View Post
    The article says:

    "Altogether 123 pilots were currently under training in the SAAF."

    Is that one, two, three... three whole pilots ! Or actually 123? Sounds like quite a lot.
    I found out last night that there are only 4 fighter pilots being trained right now.
    Apparently the OC (training) left as well.
    The Australian Defence force is recruiting (BIG TIME!)

    They make these guys offers that they cannot refuse.LOL!

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    Default Col Jan Breytenbach

    I attended a talk given by Col Breytenbach in Durban last night. If any of you guys get a chance to attend one of his talks, he is a most interesting fellow..he has a great sense of humour too. He spoke about the formation of, and the early days of Bravo Group mostly and I must confess I could have sat there the whole night listening..Kevin Woods was also there and so was Al Venter, all 3 with books to autograph etc. They dont come as good as 'The Carpenter" anymore..

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    Hi!
    I read some pages of this theme, but I don't find some info in wich I'm interested. Will be all models of IFV patria for South Africa able to "swim"?

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    For some SA Bushwar stuff, see my webpage at: www.geocities.com/sa_bushwar

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    Quote Originally Posted by luqzul@telkomsa.net View Post
    [FONT=Arial]This is very true, our unit received about 360 members from the 2006 intake of which only 8 are white(male only). What has caused the interest of white south africans to drop so drasticaly? Is it possible that their parents are influencing them based on there bad experiences during national service? or is it something else?[/FONT]
    They had the option of joining the British army, earning Sterling and get a EU passport at the end of it - might have had something to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowky View Post
    Hi!
    I read some pages of this theme, but I don't find some info in wich I'm interested. Will be all models of IFV patria for South Africa able to "swim"?
    I don't think so - not many waterways to to negotiate in Africa.

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    CHANGE OF RANKS AND FORM OF ADDRESS OF SENIOR WARRANT OFFICERS IN THE SANDF
    The Minister of Defence has approved the following new Warrant Officer ranks, effective from 1 June 2008:

    Old ApptNew RankBadge of RankAbbrForm of Addressab cd[CENTER][CENTER]Level 4[/CENTER]


    WO
    Seniors
    Warrant
    Officer




    SWO


    Senior WO


    Level 4A


    Master


    Warrant


    Officer





    MWO


    Master WO


    Level 3


    WO


    Chief


    Warrant


    Officer





    CWO


    Chief WO


    Level 2


    WO


    Senior Chief


    Warrant


    Officer





    SCWO


    Senior Chief WO


    Level 1


    WO


    Master Chief


    Warrant


    Officer





    MSWO


    Master Chief WO[/CENTER]


    These ranks are awarded subsequent to the rank of Warrant Officer Class 1, with the aim of providing for an extended career path for Warrant Officers following promotion to Warrant Officer Class 1.
    The ranks are furthermore substantive, and no longer relate only to an appointment in a post. Once appointed to a post, the Warrant Officer is also promoted, and can no longer revert to the rank of Warrant Officer Class 1.

    Currently these ranks are only applicable to Warrant Officers in the Regimental Line as follows:
    • Master Warrant Officer (Level 4/4A)
    • Chief Warrant Officer (Level 3)
    • Senior Chief Warrant Officer (Service/Division Warrant Officer/ Warrant Officer in Charge of the Warrant Officer Academy)
    • Master Chief Warrant Officer (Warrant Officer of the SANDF)
    An investigation is currently being conducted into the establishment of a Functional Specialist Warrant Officer dispensation outside the Regimental Line, providing for promotion up to the rank of Chief Warrant Officer, depending on the organisational level and the job weight of a post.
    The Office of the Chief Human Resources is in the process of including the ranks in the General Regulations for the SANDF and to develop departmental policy detailing the supporting management and administration processes for the new ranks.

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    SECURITY FORCES TO CONDUCT 2010 TRAINING EXERCISES IN PORT ELIZABETH, EASTERN CAPE.
    In line with its security preparations for the 2010 FIFA World Cup in South Africa, the National Joint Operational and Intelligence Structure (NATJOINTS) will conduct “Exercise Shield” around the Port Elizabeth Stadium in the Eastern Cape from 27 July to 3 August 2008.
    The security forces wish to ask the community of Port Elizabeth to be patient and tolerant to the possible noise from the aircraft and vessels in and around the city’s airport and harbour, especially from 30 July to 1 August 2008.
    This exercise will make all South Africans proud of their security forces and their country.
    “Exercise Shield” is a joint exercise between the South African Police Service (SAPS), the South African National Defence Force (SANDF) and other agencies including Government Departments.
    The exercise is aimed at honing security related skills such as securing the national airspace, the maritime and land and other strategic points to ensure a safe environment in host cities during major events.
    Some of the most elite members and units within the security forces will engage in simulated scenarios and use certain aspects of emergency contingency plans to neutralize any form of air-bone, sea-borne and land-borne threat.
    The SAPS units to be utilized during this exercise include the Special Task Force, the National Intervention Unit, the National and Provincial Air Wing, Borderline and Ports of Entry Components, Emergency Services such as Flying Squad and the Dog Unit, Crime Intelligence and Organised Crime Units, the Counter Assault Team as well as hostage negotiators and bomb disposal experts.
    The SANDF will deploy personnel from the Air Force the Army, the Navy and the South African Medical Health Services (SAMHS) with the necessary equipment and machinery. Assistance from Disaster Management coordination structures, the Civil Aviation Authority, the Air Traffic Navigation Services of the Department of Transport and other structures will be on board to ensure inter-departmental support to the SAPS.
    The Civil Aviation Authority has already issued information restricting, but not banning flights within 40 nautical miles of the Port Elizabeth Airport. With the exception of scheduled or State flights, all other aircraft wishing to enter into the stipulated airspace between 31 July and 1 August 2008 must conform to the restrictions.
    This includes applying for permission at least 24 hours in advance, submitting a flight plan and being subjected to a vetting process. Any aircraft observed entering the temporarily restricted airspace without the prescribed authority will be subjected to interception, interrogation and possible prosecution.

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