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    What's this? I had it filed under "Buffel" but that's not it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calimero2
    What's this? I had it filed under "Buffel" but that's not it.
    It's a Bulldog. Basically the same thing, just built on the Samil 20 chassis rather than a Unimog. The driver also sits on the right rather than the left.

    I don't have any other pics of it on my work pc, but I'll post them later when I get home.
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    Hmmm. Looking at the pictures now I notice some marked differences between the Bulldog I know and the vehicle calimero2 queried.








    I know Buffels were exported to Sri Lanka. I quick search on Google turned up this on Wikipedia - 'Buffel mine protected APC - Body now built by SL army Military with modifications.' Here's the link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Army

    At first glance I thought it was the Bulldog, but they seem to have just done some mods to the original Buffels to end up with a similar looking vehicle. Every website I've found just refers to them as Buffels so I assume they've just carried on using this name - even though it's now a very different vehicle.

    This link has an article about SLA manufactured 'Buffels' - http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=11737

    Another link refering to Sri Lankan Buffels - http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=16683

    And their official army website - although I couldn't see anything regarding the vehicles they use - http://www.army.lk/index1.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by calimero2
    Hm. This is the only Bulldog picture that I have and it looks different too:
    Sorry - see the post above yours. I must have been editing my earlier double post, and searching the net when you posted this.
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    Those don't look like SA Bulldogs in that picture. Botswana, Namibia? Maybe Zambia, Zimbabwe? Almost looks like those troopers are wearing old RLI uniforms.
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    Sorry for the confusion guys - I think they're Sri Lankan built Buffels.

    They bought South African Buffels and then apparently modified them, but still call them Buffels.

    See my post a bit further up (the second one with three pictures of the Bulldog) for some links etc.
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    Those vehicles are probably Unicorns, build in Sri Lanka and indeed probably based on the Buffel. There's hardly any info or imagery available, but I think there are several versions around.

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    I must admit that this one piqued my curiosity. When I first saw the vehicle was right hand drive I never thought it was a Buffel - every one I've seen is left hand drive - that's what made me ID it as a Bulldog.
    Buffels also have the original Unimog portal axles - which these vehicles don't seem to have - although from these pictures I can't really be certain.

    When I got home from work and posted the pictures of the Bulldog I realised I was wrong with that assumption.

    I was in a rush earlier as I was going out, and could only find the 'Buffel' links I posted. The whole time I was out I was wondering whether they'd confused a Buffel and a Bulldog as, if these were the modified Buffels I'd found in my search, they'd gone from being left hand drive vehicles to right hand drive - and also lost the portal axles.

    But the big clue was the 'Unicorn' name given by calimero2.

    As I really hate a mystery like this I've been searching on Google and this is what I came up with...

    Here they refer to a Unicorn Buffel, which may be the vehicle in the pic calimero2 posted - but there's no picture in the article so that's just a guess on my part - http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2006/04/23/sec02.html

    calimero2: Do you have a link to the site that Unicorn picture came from?

    Then I found these...





    It seems that this a new vehicle that Sri Lanka has just developed called a 'Unibuffel.'

    Check out this link - http://www.sundayobserver.lk/2004/04/25/fea22.html

    Reading the section of the article where they refer to the price of the vehicle being 3 million rupees I'd say that it's the same vehicle they were referring to in the article I linked to earlier.

    This link has an article about SLA manufactured 'Buffels' - http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13&artid=11737
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