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  1. 12-14-2005 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Ranger
    Make that 2!!!
    Why doen't the other South Africans like the Gripen purchase?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinner the swede
    Why doen't the other South Africans like the Gripen purchase?
    Well... I can only guess, but:

    1) It was very controvertial as it costs loads of cash when it's not really that badly needed (look at the dangers from out neighbours..)
    2) The corruption accusations are rife,
    3) We don't even have pilots to fly them!!!
    4) The SAAF is full of sh1t with their affirmative action etc... (saw it for myself),
    5) It's a foreign engineered fighter replacing South African made Cheetah's...

    When I think up other reasons I will post it... But screw all that... If we are ever to be taken seriously as a developing nation we need to have the National Security/Defence capabalities to show for that!!
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    How much did South Africa buy them for?
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    Default South-Africa, land of Defence Companies (Vehicle pictures)

    Hello Guys,

    I have take some pictures about Military vehicle produce by some Defense companies from South-Africa.

    See :

    Elan Upgrade :
    [img]http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Jordan/Exhibition/Sofex_2004/pictures/Elan_Upgrade_South-Africa_Sofex_2004_01.jpg[/img]

    Jakkal :
    [img]http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Jordan/Exhibition/Sofex_2004/pictures/Jakkals_South-Africa_Sofex_2004_01.jpg[/img]

    Ratel 25 mm gun
    [img]http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Jordan/Exhibition/Sofex_2004/pictures/Ratel_20mm_South-Africa_Sofex_2004_01.jpg[/img]

    Rooikat anti-tank
    [img]http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Jordan/Exhibition/Sofex_2004/pictures/Rooikat_Anti-Tank_South-Africa_Sofex_2004_02.jpg[/img]

    Rooikat
    [img]http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Jordan/Exhibition/Sofex_2004/pictures/Rooikat_South-Africa_Sofex_2004_01.jpg[/img]

    Alain
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    SAAF= Suid Afrikaanse Lugmag ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopaard
    SAAF= Suid Afrikaanse Lugmag ?
    Dis reg... Op die kol...
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    Very nice pics ArmyReco!

    Quote Originally Posted by D.Ranger
    Make that 2!!!
    Awesome

    Quote Originally Posted by G-Capo
    How much did South Africa buy them for?
    The SAAF is getting 28 Gripen fighters together with 24 BAE Hawk advanced jet trainers as a package. The total cost of this is around USD 2.2 billion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leopaard
    SAAF= Suid Afrikaanse Lugmag ?
    In english it means South African Air Force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Ranger
    Dis reg... Op die kol...
    hmm, Ek begryp die Suid Afrikaanse taal niet zo goed , ek ben namelijk van Nederland.
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    That new Eland looks a lot like a SA version of the Fennek. Pretty cool.

    Does anyone know anything more about the Rooikat AT variant? What missiles does it have and what is the size of the gun? I can't tell if it's 12.7mm or 20mm.
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    Excellent new photos all! Keep em coming! Sorry, can't participate in the Afrikaans discussion, I'm a rooinek haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Ranger
    Well... I can only guess, but:

    1) It was very controvertial as it costs loads of cash when it's not really that badly needed (look at the dangers from out neighbours..)
    2) The corruption accusations are rife,
    3) We don't even have pilots to fly them!!!
    4) The SAAF is full of sh1t with their affirmative action etc... (saw it for myself),
    5) It's a foreign engineered fighter replacing South African made Cheetah's...

    When I think up other reasons I will post it... But screw all that... If we are ever to be taken seriously as a developing nation we need to have the National Security/Defence capabalities to show for that!!
    I would agree with all those reasons except for the last one, the Cheetah is really just an Israeli Kfir without the US J79 engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baboon6
    I would agree with all those reasons except for the last one, the Cheetah is really just an Israeli Kfir without the US J79 engine.
    I knew that ... But it was South African business savvy to get the "Made in RSA" stamp.. hehe...

    No doubt over the Rooivalk though... It was my dream as a youngster to fly one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopaard
    hmm, Ek begryp die Suid Afrikaanse taal niet zo goed , ek ben namelijk van Nederland.
    You Dutchman you...

    (En ek verstaan jou taal baie goed... en as jy meer afrikaans lees, sal jy ook!!!)

    And Nordwind... I am half "rooinek"!!
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    Lol I'm confused. How do you know Dutch D.Ranger? And what's this about Afrikaans/rooinek?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurrection
    Lol I'm confused. How do you know Dutch D.Ranger? And what's this about Afrikaans/rooinek?
    Rooinek means in "Red Neck" in Afrikaans its slang for South Africans of British decent ......... Brits have a reputation for sunburn when abroad!
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