A little presentation of the ships in the Swedish navy

[Greek soldier]

The latter side-by-side with the Greek Zubr will be hell of a fire-power!

[signatory]

And I hope Finland buys some new boats fitted with AMOS mortars too, I hate to see the pansy Swedes taking all the credit for it. After all, only the turret shell is Swedish, the mortars and the loading system are Finnish.

Well if Finns didn't have so much naked male bonding in saunas they too could build more cool product demonstators

But from now on i call on all Swedes to call it SSG120 for the Swedish versions and AMOS for Finnish. There's even other nationalities in the product development phase as sub-contractors to the joint fin-swe project.
The boat version is currently 'GrkStrb 90120A' but that won't last.

[Lazarou]

What kind of boats are you thinking about? CB90 is too light and about Stridsbåt Ny (the 40 ton larger new version)... well let's just say that it will not be floating anytime soon.

Yes, choosing a platform for the weapon woud be a problem. Thumbs up, lets hope the Stridsbåt Ny becomes available for foreign customers. But even then... I doubt we'll be getting any of them because of the current hoplophobic politicians and the Cajander-style defence budget.

[Greek soldier]

I doubt we'll be getting any of them because of the current hoplophobic politicians and the Cajander-style defence budget.

That's bad news... Hope they will change their minds

[Maskirovka]

Jurmo is used as a troop transport boat, whereas the CB90 was designed as a multipurpose boat for troop transport, patrol and weapons carrying tasks. The name of the CB90 tells it all; its a combat boat.



Plastic, eh?
Jurmo's hull is made of aluminium and superstructure of high-strenght carbon fibre.



As I said, Jurmo is not (and was not meant to be) a flexible all-round boat; it's a simple landing craft for domestic markets.
The Jurmo can carry 25 people, whereas the CB90 can carry 21 soldiers (a Swedish half-platoon) and a three man crew.
And both of the boats fill their roles just fine in my opinion. I'm a great fan of Stridsbåt 90.
And I hope Finland buys some new boats fitted with AMOS mortars too, I hate to see the pansy Swedes taking all the credit for it. After all, only the turret shell is Swedish, the mortars and the loading system are Finnish.

Ok, but I still fail to see how the Jurmo is suppose to be a better trooptransporter. They can both carry the same (half-platoon) and have no armour for either crew or troops (the basic versions). CB90 is faster, have one more machinegun/AGL for firesupport and the design with the crew compartment in the bow is apparently an advantage when it comes to that kind of beachlandings (crash-stop) from what I´ve heard.

Is it just the fact that the design of CB90 was so successful that they made other versions aswell that makes you automaticly think that it´s not ideal for the task it was originally designed - a trooptransporting landingcraft for the swedish amphibious battalion? And believe me, when the swedish navy ordered the boat they did´nt request a multipurpose vessel, they just wanted to replace old 200-class landingsboats. And, as with the 200-class boats, the size of it just makes it possible to add some mines or depthcharges onboard (or as we´ve seen later on Hellfire missiles or RBS-70 SAM), but that does not mean the landing-troops capabilities has been compromised.

[Kekkonen]

CB90 is faster, have one more machinegun/AGL for firesupport

Most of the CV90s and Jurmos seems to be equipped with one HMG only. In theory Jurmos could be equipped with up to three HMG/AGLs (two forward, one back) as well of course but could and does is two different words. That said I don't care about the rest of the differences, knowing that Jurmo is good for what it is intended for (transporting soldiers or 3000 kg of equipment from point A to B) is good enough for me. From Fin-Swe 2005;


NSV on Jurmo


TKsp on CB90


Lemur on CB90 (AGL can also be used)

[skinner the swede]

Picture at the front of Strb90

[Greek soldier]

I finally found a picture of the Greek CB 90.

[Saturn5]

For which missions does the Greek Coast guard uses the CB 90's?

[Greek soldier]

The Greek boats are used for illegal drug trafficking and for supression of illegal immigrants. These 3 boats operate on the Corfu-Albania coastal strait. All 3 have the twin-machine gun skinner_the_swede posted.

[Resurrection]

It's a shame there aren't more pics of the Greek CB 90s.

[Swedish_Marine]

Speculations leads you nowhere. It is time for me to once again correct all of your mistakes. First of all, Strb90 was not initially intended to replace the 200-boats, but rather the 330-boats (smaller troop transport-boats), since the 200-boats were still considered to be very good, versitile and rugged. But it did eventually replace them.

The final goal for 90H (half platoon) was signed by the Chief of the navy in 1988. The main requirements stated were:
- Transportation of 21 fully equipped soldiers, missile - and mortar equipment
- Deploy mines and,
- Have the ability to fire missiles while not in motion.
- Have the ability to provide support via heavy machineguns and to provide protection from aerial threats with said weapons.

This makes the boat a MULTI PURPOUSE vessel, and not only used to ferry the ultraüberOMFG DELTA!!111oneoneHaXXorZ1337commando-coastal rangers into a firey warzone to slay evil commie speznaz bastards with knives between their teeth. They are formost made for troop transport, delivering weapon systems like the RBS-17 (Hellfire SDS) secton, Mortar sections, deploying anti-ship mines (M9) and serving as HQ-platforms (with the transport compartment full of communications and all kinds of s.hit).

From now on, if you want any information about this boat, ask me directly because I can provide you with proper answers. Wouldn´t that be better than to speculate?

Best regards: Anders, who is actually trained on a friggin Strb90H, and only protected by 7mm of alluminium in case of war.

[Greek soldier]

It's a shame there aren't more pics of the Greek CB 90s.

Actually it's a shame our Marine Special Forces doesn't have more CB 90H

[LazerLordz]

Good pics man.

Oh for those of you who didnt know, Singapore also operates. the ex Swedish Sjoormen class SSK.

Now renamed the RSN's Challenger-class SSK.

[Kekkonen]

From now on, if you want any information about this boat, ask me directly because I can provide you with proper answers. Wouldn´t that be better than to speculate?

Okey, I have a question for you Swedish_Marine. About the 90H and the HMGs some sources say that the Swedish 90Hs today are armed with only one HMG as opposed to the original three, this due to the recoil from the twin HMG mount not being that good for the boat, and thus not being used (atleast during peace-time training).

True or false?