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    the dutch one is designated xa-188 actually (afaik) has more protection, can't swim

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    SISU's XA-180 is the first model, that was taken to use 1983 in the Finnish army. The later models are improved with more armour protection, different engines etc and also have a different name. The Estonian one on your second post is indeed a XA-180, the one in your first post is a Dutch XA-188. The new Patria AMV is a XA-300-series.

    Other versions in production...
    * XA-181 Crotale NG (New Generation) Self-Propelled Surface-To-Air Missile system
    * XA-185 AWV (Armored Wheeled Vehicle)
    * XA-203 AFV Fire Support Vehicle
    * Jantronic J-1000

    being tested / have been tested
    * XA-185 ITOW / TOW-2 SP-ATGM system (Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Guided Missile)
    * XA-185/XA-203 AMOS Advanced MOrtar System
    * XA-185/25mm Fire Support Vehicle
    ...or being exported
    * XA-186 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-188 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-201 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-202 AWCV (Armored Wheeled Command Vehicle)

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    And that is a Danish XA-185 ambulance version (actually Finnish army property, only leased to Denmark) untill they get their Mowag Piranha IIICs.

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    Your list lacks at least 2 non exports in use currently(comms version and a "secret squirrel version"). I don't know the designations cause I don't care. They are not known for their designations in the forces but by their FDF nicks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkonen
    Other versions in production...
    * XA-181 Crotale NG (New Generation) Self-Propelled Surface-To-Air Missile system
    * XA-185 AWV (Armored Wheeled Vehicle)
    * XA-203 AFV Fire Support Vehicle
    * Jantronic J-1000

    being tested / have been tested
    * XA-185 ITOW / TOW-2 SP-ATGM system (Self-Propelled Anti-Tank Guided Missile)
    * XA-185/XA-203 AMOS Advanced MOrtar System
    * XA-185/25mm Fire Support Vehicle
    ...or being exported
    * XA-186 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-188 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-201 Fire Support Vehicle
    * XA-202 AWCV (Armored Wheeled Command Vehicle)

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    We have a few........although I`m not too sure whats being done with them since the Mowags arrived.

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    hehe nice way of using refrigerator magnets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelwings
    Your list lacks at least 2 non exports in use currently(comms version and a "secret squirrel version"). I don't know the designations cause I don't care. They are not known for their designations in the forces but by their FDF nicks.
    Yeah. The new communications version would be the XA-202, I don't know what you mean in this context when you say secret squirrel, but it should be in the list below which is somewhat new (the other one above was several years old).

    * XA-180 : basic model (1983) with a 6.6 litre diesel engine
    * XA-180 : with 12.7 mm HMG
    * XA-181 : with Crotale NG - SAM system
    * XA-182 : with Jantronic J-1000 radar
    * XA-185 : better armored XA-180 with larger engine (7.4 litre diesel) and HMG
    * XA-185 ambulance : battle field ambulance
    * XA-185 command vehicle : equipped with communications equipment
    * XA-185 with 30 mm cannon
    * XA-185 Radar : avec système de radar de surveillance du champ de bataille
    * XA-185 Recovery
    * XA-185 TOW : with experimental TOW-turret
    * XA-186 : version with more armour
    * XA-186NO : Norwegian version of XA-186
    * XA-186NO Recovery
    * XA-186NO Command vehicle
    * XA-188 : With more armour for the Netherlands
    * XA-200 : Much improved version of XA-180
    * XA-201 : XA-200 version for Danish APC trials
    * XA-201 Ambulance : same as above
    * XA-202 :Command vehicle : same as above
    * XA-203 : The latest model from the XA-200-series
    * XA-285 :
    * XA AMOS : Experimental vehicles with AMOS turret

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    A little note on the dutch XA-188;
    This vehicle was bought solely for the purpose of peacekeeping missions. It's not supposed to be used on a real combat mission (like going to war). But this is just theory, since they only thing the dutch military does these days is peace-keeping mission.

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    Nope, neither of them are in that list. That list says 202 is command, not comms. Where is that list from anyway?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kekkonen
    Yeah. The new communications version would be the XA-202, I don't know what you mean in this context when you say secret squirrel, but it should be in the list below which is somewhat new (the other one above was several years old).

    * XA-180 : basic model (1983) with a 6.6 litre diesel engine
    * XA-180 : with 12.7 mm HMG
    * XA-181 : with Crotale NG - SAM system
    * XA-182 : with Jantronic J-1000 radar
    * XA-185 : better armored XA-180 with larger engine (7.4 litre diesel) and HMG
    * XA-185 ambulance : battle field ambulance
    * XA-185 command vehicle : equipped with communications equipment
    * XA-185 with 30 mm cannon
    * XA-185 Radar : avec système de radar de surveillance du champ de bataille
    * XA-185 Recovery
    * XA-185 TOW : with experimental TOW-turret
    * XA-186 : version with more armour
    * XA-186NO : Norwegian version of XA-186
    * XA-186NO Recovery
    * XA-186NO Command vehicle
    * XA-188 : With more armour for the Netherlands
    * XA-200 : Much improved version of XA-180
    * XA-201 : XA-200 version for Danish APC trials
    * XA-201 Ambulance : same as above
    * XA-202 :Command vehicle : same as above
    * XA-203 : The latest model from the XA-200-series
    * XA-285 :
    * XA AMOS : Experimental vehicles with AMOS turret

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelwings
    Nope, neither of them are in that list. That list says 202 is command, not comms. Where is that list from anyway?
    Ok, just for you, XA-202 communications version (viesti).









    What is the secret squirrel version?

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