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    First of the U-214 class, Papanikolis

    These are the photos that have been released till now... You can see them in full size by clicking on them.

    (the sub is under the german flag, cause it has not been accepted yet by the Hellenic navy... can't wait to see it under the blue and white colours of the greek flag.. )























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    How does it rate compared to a RAN Collins class?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_shark
    Ah, She's so beautiful. We also have 9 214 subs through 2020.
    Well, AFAIK S.Korea has ordered 3 U-214 class submarines. The needs are for 6 more, but there are discussions the 6 additional to be a Korean 3.500 ton design (code-name “KSS-III”).

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    Yeah.. seems you are right:

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    The Navy seeks to deploy three 3,500-ton class next-generation submarines in the field by 2020 in stages under plans to achieve a “self-reliant” defense posture, the Defense Ministry said on Thursday

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    On top of the KSS-III project, the Navy plans to build six 1,800-ton level Type 214 submarines between 2012 and 2020 under the KSS-II program.

    Three 214-Type submarines are currently under development at Hyundai Heavy Industries shipyards under cooperation with Germany, said Col. Min Hyung-gi at the agency's office in charge of the shipbuilding project.


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    http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?session=dae.17059121.1136741556.Q8FMtMOa9dUAACQR5Ls&modele=jdc_34
    but Korea has so far ordered 3 U-214s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_shark
    and they will decomission 3 earlier U-209 subs in RoKN. so -3 U-209 out of 9 and 9 U-214 plus 3 indigenous 3500+ton subs.
    What time frame are we talking about? Right now I think they will be able to archieve a fairly good prize for the 209 class.

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    Some more photos:

    (same as before, click to see them full sized)





    And 2 CGIs :





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    Pics from inside the Hellenic Shipyards, where the Pipinos and the Matrozos Type 214 submarines are being built for the Hellenic Navy!

    (again, click on the pics to see them full sized)







    the tanks where the Hydrogen is going to be stored


    in the center, the Oxygen Tank



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    the first picture from inside the Papanikolis:


    For higher resolution, click here

    You can see the consoles of the ISUS 90-15 combat management and weapons control system, and the Attack Periscope SERO 400EO in the center.



    (scanned by the Hellenic Defence magazine of June 2006)
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    Quote Originally Posted by catalyst
    How does it rate compared to a RAN Collins class?
    Uhm, much more modern and stealthy because of the AIP? Newer Torpedos, Sonar, ECM, Decoys, Combat system... simply more modern.

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    i prefer U212 from the look whats the diffrence beatwin two12 and two14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by perdurabo
    i prefer U212 from the look whats the diffrence beatwin two12 and two14?
    214 is the Export Version. It lacks the Magnetic Stealth System IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by perdurabo
    i prefer U212 from the look whats the diffrence beatwin two12 and two14?
    TYPE 214

    HDW has developed the Type 214 submarine, which is a further improvement on the Type 212. The Greek Navy has ordered three Type 214 submarines. The first, Papanikolis (S120), was built at the HDW Kiel shipyard and was launched in April 2004. It is scheduled to commission in 2006. Hellenic Shipyards will build the second (Pipinos S121) and third (Matrozos 122) vessels at Skaramanga, for commission in 2008-09. Hellenic Shipyards was acquired by HDW in May 2002. AA fourth vessel, Katsonis (S123), was ordered by Greece in June 2002 and is expected to commission in 2010.

    South Korea has also ordered three Type 214, to enter service in 2007, 2008 and 2009. These will be built by Hyundai Heavy Industries.

    The Type 214 will have an increased diving depth of over 400m, due to improvements in the pressure hull materials. Hull length is 65m and displacement 1,700t. Four of the eight torpedo tubes will be capable of firing missiles.

    Type 214 submarines for the Hellenic Navy will be armed with the WASS (Whitehead Alenia Sistemi Subaquei) Black Shark heavyweight torpedo. The Black Shark is a dual purpose, wire-guided torpedo which is fitted with Astra active / passive acoustic head and a multi-target guidance and control unit incorporating a counter-countermeasures system. It has an electrical propulsion system based on a silver oxide and aluminium battery.

    Performance of the AIP system has been increased with two Siemens PEM fuel cells which produce 120kW per module and will give the submarine an underwater endurance of two weeks. A hull shape which has been further optimised for hydrodynamic and stealth characteristics and a low noise propeller combine to decrease the submarine's acoustic signature.

    The Integrated Sensor Underwater System ISUS 90, from ATLAS Elektronik integrates all sensors, command and control functions on board the submarine. BAE Systems provides the Link 11 tactical data link. The sensor suite of the U214 submarine consists of the sonar systems, an attack periscope and an optronic mast. The submarine's electronic support measures system and Global Positioning System sensors are also installed on the optronic mast.
    http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/type_212/

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuri
    214 is the Export Version. It lacks the Magnetic Stealth System IIRC
    Well, you do not recall corectly...

    The hull of the greek U-214s, is being made by the greek steel company, called METKA. And the steel IS non-magnetic.

    Because this kind of technology is hyper-secret, METKA was bought by the MAN-Ferostaal before the deal of the U-214s was signed, so the secrets to remain in german hands, but to be builted by greeks in greece.
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    Well, the main difference is that the 214 is simply bigger. And made for mediterran environments with deeper water. The Technology, Equipment and Material is more or less the same.
    The 212 class is a bit more streamlined and smaller, making it a bit more stealthy.

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    2 pics scanned from the Stratigiki magazine:
    (in the 2nd one I'e amateurely edited out the titles of the front page...)







    and some pics credited to the "darkhelmet" in another forum:




    Parts of the Pipinos and Matrozos beginning their trip from HDW's shipyards to the Hellenic Shipyards:

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