Yum Kippur War

[Snoshi]

Sayed you are so hypocritical that i wont even bother to respond to your baseless statements.

[IDF_TANKER]

Sayed you are so hypocritical that i wont even bother to respond to your baseless statements.

Say whatever you want about Egyptians, but there is one thing they have and we don't - the access to the internet for the patients in their mental hospitals.

[Mr.Flint]

Are you claiming that the Palestinians came to palestine 200 years ago only as labours to constrcut the Turkish Raiway!
Mr, You may push a legacy to look like real history but you can not hide or delete actual history events & acceidents.
Palestinians who existed in Palestine till 1947 are no different than any other people who exisited in this area ( syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, -----etc).
''Semitic tribes from the arabian peninsula began migrating into Palestine as early as the 3rd millennium BCE, and among these migrants were the Arabs, such that the region was arabized centuries before the Islamic era began.Aramic & greek were replaced by Arabic as the area's dominant language.Among the cultural survivals from pre-Islamic times are the significant Palestinian Christian community''

Lol, now thats a real gem of historical revisionism... You Arab have serious issues about your ***** size, obviously. (Ever wondered why so many ancient egyptian statues, decorations, paintings have their *****es removed?)

Again History facts can not be hidden or deleted. The majority of the Palestinians were driven out by force :-
- Avnery (1971), explaining the Zionist rationale, says,
''I believe that during this phase, the eviction of Arab civilians had become an aim of David Ben-Gurion and his government …. UN opinion could very well be disregarded''
- Edgar O'Ballance, a military historian, writes
''Israeli vans with loudspeakers drove through the streets ordering all the inhabitants to evacuate immediately, and such as were reluctant to leave were forcibly ejected from their homes by the triumphant Israelis whose policy was now openly one of clearing out all the Arab civil population before them …. From the surrounding villages and hamlets, during the next two or three days, all the inhabitants were uprooted and set off on the road to Ramallah…. No longer was there any "reasonable persuasion". Bluntly, the Arab inhabitants were ejected and forced to flee into Arab territory…. Wherever the Israeli troops advanced into Arab country the Arab population was bulldozed out in front of them''

Neither of these quotes, make any sense, nor are supported by real facts.

Lots of accidents & proofs are recorded showing that 750,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes between 1947 and 1949. In addition, 13,000 Palestinians were killed, 418 Palestinian villages were completely depopulated, and half of all villages in Palestine were physically destroyed.
Again, The legimacy of the Palestinians return right is not based only on the fact that they were expelled from their tritories by force but mainly on the Different UN resolutions starting from resolution no 191 & subesequent demanding reolutions.

More empty talk. to refresh your mind UN resolution demand the prospective returnees to will to live in peace. All the prospective returnees want the destruction of the state of Israel, so sorry door is closed.

But the partition plan is still being unaccepted as it differentiate between people according to their race & religion. Palestine partioning was the reason for the blood shed that took place in palestine & the world till today. What we are calling for is a one state where all races & religions may live on equal basis & rights.

Bullcrap.
The bloodshed began long before even the idea of partitioning took ground.
Your Arab brethren considered it a virtue to prey on Jews, actually they still do...
Israel is a state where all races and religions live on equal basis and rights. Unlike your sorry ass arab world.
Its quite amusing to read your moralizing... So when the Bahai's gonna get equal rights? or the persecution of Copts will stop?
Or the refugees from Darfur, will be free from the violence and racism of Egypt?

large protions of these refugees that aught to return home exist in Gaza. Gaza is turned now to be one of the most people concentrated areas in the globe.
In the other hand, you can not ask your new coming immigrating Jews to settle in Cyprus for example under the claim that Cyprus is not crowded & in the same way you can not ask from an expelled Palestinian to settle in Sinai because it is less crowded than Israel.

Gaza is not the most concentrated area in the world. That is a popular myth.
No hostile population will be allowed into Israel, and make no mistake they are hostile. The behavior of the Arab parties in the Knesset, the behavior of the Waqf show that clearly.

Already, some of the Egyptian courts are studying cases where Egyptian origin Israeili Jews are claiming the ownership of some properties in Cairo.
When real peace is fullfilled such issues shall be solved easily. Jews may return to their arab countries if they wish.
BTW, I beleive that most arab states will welcome these Jews return even without accomplishment of complete peace in the region.

Right and pigs will fly... Spare us the fantasies of the friendly arab states... To the arab street to kill a jew is a heroic deed, worthy of heroes of the ancient times

You are not only chalenging history but also Dimographic facts. First regarding your ''Israeli Arabs live in the heighst------'' , Here is the Israeili Jerusalem centre for public affairs testimony
''Those Palestinians (or Arabs as they then called themselves) who remained in Israel were granted restricted Israeli citizenship, being allowed to vote and being eligible under the law to equal services. Until 1966, however, they were considered a security threat, and thus were restricted in their mobility and citizen roles. They were under military government in the Galilee and part of the south. Special identification cards were issued and their ability to travel freely was controlled by the government.2 The resultant complex and ambivalent set of attitudes and practices, official and unofficial, was further complicated in 1966 when the Israeli Arabs were relieved from living under military control and placed under total civil government authority.''
No police force in a acivilized country shall shoot & kill 12 of its citizens in demonestrations like that event which took place in Nazerette city in year 2000. Although being Israeilis, these arab youth were shot in peacfull demonstration by the Israeili police.

Well all i see that you have issues with English... because if you didnt you would have seen the years in the article.
Interesting so Egypt is not a civilized country? Because your police killed a large number of demonstrating refugees no so long ago...
And then the riots in Mahalla?
Or how about your minister promising to break the legs of your brothers Palis?

Now regarding the dimographic facts, your statement regarding the 10 children per religious jewish family is realy amusing, yet it did not affect the following survey:-
- Annual percentage of growth exclusive of immigration
Arabs 3.1
Jews 1.2

- Fertility rate per 1000 women aged 15-49
Arabs 134.7
Jews 71.9

If i were you , such dimographic facts should make me change my policies & aside the international laws & decisions

blah blah blah, more asinine moralizing....
there are plenty of surveys that show the Arab Israeli birthrate dropping.

Do you enjoy living in the core of the middle east wars & blood shed. Yugoslavia looks pretty peafull place in comparison with the last 60 years of daily blood shed that is taking place in Palestine & its neighbour countries. That is the result of your plan & policies. Your plan is not working & will not prevail.

You sir are an idiot.
You forgot that your Arab world started the bloodshed, everything that happened is a direct result of your racist and intolerant policies for 60 years already.
This is your legacy, not Israel's. If everything went according to our "plan&policies" The middle east would have been living in peace and friendship for the past 60 years, the Arab countries would have been free and democratic states, The technological advancement would have been unparalleled in the world etc.

So go keep jerking yourself off to your silly dream of vanquishing the evil zionists, because all it would be is just a dream.

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[I]''Semitic tribes from the arabian peninsula began migrating into Palestine as early as the 3rd millennium BCE, and among these migrants were the Arabs, such that the region was arabized centuries before the Islamic era began.Aramic & greek were replaced by Arabic as the area's dominant language.Among the cultural survivals from pre-Islamic times are the significant Palestinian Christian community''

I believe that during this phase, the eviction of Arab civilians had become an aim of David Ben-Gurion and his government …. UN opinion could very well be disregarded''

Then how come that there are 1.5 million Arab citizens in Israel? Ben Gurion could easily expell all Arabs in 1948.

But the partition plan is still being unaccepted as it differentiate between people according to their race & religion. Palestine partioning was the reason for the blood shed that took place in palestine & the world till today. What we are calling for is a [U][B]one state where all races & religions may live on equal basis & rights.

Do you enjoy living in the core of the middle east wars & blood shed. Yugoslavia looks pretty peafull place in comparison with the last 60 years of daily blood shed that is taking place in Palestine & its neighbour countries. That is the result of your plan & policies. Your plan is not working & will not prevail.

Learn some history. The fact that many nations that dont really like each other were united in one Yugoslavia, caused series of conflicts, only in 90-es 150,000 people were killed, mostly civilians (That compare to 5.5 thousands of Palestinians killed in both intifadas, mostly terrorists). Only when Yugoslavia was partitioned into 6 states it became peaceful.

What we are calling for is a one state where all races & religions may live on equal basis & rights.

Israel already has equal rights. What u want is to turn Israel into 23th Arab state. Nothing else. You dont care about Palestinians. Otherwise you would not hold them in camps for 60 years.

U got 22 countries. All 22 corrupted, all 22 undemocratic, all 22 undeveloped. All beside tiny oil emirates poor. And it makes u jealous that there is flourishing Israel around.

[Sayed Zakerya]

Sayed you are so hypocritical that i wont even bother to respond to your baseless statements.

You can not say they are baseless, because I have stated all the respective references.

[Sayed Zakerya]

Say whatever you want about Egyptians, but there is one thing they have and we don't - the access to the internet for the patients in their mental hospitals.

So You are back. I thought they will never permit you in again. Anyway, i have one comment for you.
Your Previous avatar was more human than this one.

[IDF_TANKER]

So You are back. I thought they will never permit you in again. Anyway, i have one comment for you.
Your Previous avatar was more human than this one.

Man, your words are like a knife in my heart. Why would you say something like that? Why? WHYYYYY??

Besides, my avatar is a very old picture of me. Now I look very different (and much more human, I hope). Here is one from my last trip to Barcelona:

[Sayed Zakerya]

Now I look very different (and much more human, I hope):

Not realy, Your avatar & this photo unfold the same subject.

[IDF_TANKER]

Not realy, Your avatar & this photo unfold the same subject.

What subject?? What's wrong now???

[markjh]

Quoting Uri Avnery was not such a good idea
Even german Neonazis like to quote his stories.
But while you're at it, bring some Finkelstein and Chomsky classics please

[Ariha]

Man, your words are like a knife in my heart. Why would you say something like that? Why? WHYYYYY??

Besides, my avatar is a very old picture of me. Now I look very different (and much more human, I hope). Here is one from my last trip to Barcelona:

You looked so different when I saw you inside your Hassidic garb in "Batei Hungarim"...

You´re much more attractive in this one.

[IDF_TANKER]

You looked so different when I saw you inside your Hassidic garb in "Batei Hungarim"...

You´re much more attractive in this one.

Thank you, Ariha. You are a kind person unlike ... some other people on this forum.

[markjh]

Oh btw, Pierre Rehov has made an awesome documentary about the exodus of jews in arab countries:

Silent Exodus was selected at the International Human Rights Film Festival of Paris (2004) and presented at the UN Geneva Human Rights Annual Convention (2004)

In 1948 nearly one million Jews lived in Arab lands. But In barely twenty years, they have become forgotten fugitives, expelled from their native lands, forgotten by history and where the victims themselves have hidden their fate under a cloak of silence.

A people whom legend have always associated with "wandering" many of these Jews from Arab lands had lived there for thousands of years and accepted their fate, through good times and bad times.

But 1948, the beginning of their exodus, also saw the birth of the State of Israel.

And, while the Arab armies were preparing to invade the young refugee-country, the survivors of the Shoah were piling up in rickety boats. Meanwhile a few hundred thousand Arabs from Palestine were getting ready to flee their homes, convinced that they would return as winners and conquerors.

Soon - by a terrible twist of fate they, as well, began to fill up refugee camps and passed on their refugee status to new generations.

The Jews, however, did not receive refugee status.

They had just rediscovered the land of their birthright.

And if they came from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Iraq or from Yemen, if they had lost everything, even their relatives and their cemeteries, they were ready to rebuild their lives in the West and for many - in Israel - and try to forget their past.

Without ever asking for compensation or the right of return, or even wishing that their story be told...

http://www.pierrerehov.com/exodus.htm

[egyptian73]

Man, your words are like a knife in my heart. Why would you say something like that? Why? WHYYYYY??

Besides, my avatar is a very old picture of me. Now I look very different (and much more human, I hope). Here is one from my last trip to Barcelona:

so you are really gay ? IDF PERMITS gays to be tankers !! how would you concentrate on your target while there are other tank crews in the narrow tank !!
dont be angry just joking

[IDF_TANKER]

so you are really gay ? IDF PERMITS gays to be tankers !! how would you concentrate on your target while there are other tank crews in the narrow tank !!
dont be angry just joking

First of all, I'm not gay - I do it both ways (actually three ways - after my recent visit to New Zealand, but this a whole other story...).

Second, so what?? Do you have something against gay people? Even being gay we still kicked your asses (no pan intended).