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I see that after Operation Moked, the Egyptians kept their planes inside reinforced bunkers. Smart decision.Originally Posted by strategist
That was a lesson painfully learnt, Engineering Corpse hired almost every construction worker and engineer wether military or civilian to construct bunkers of the aircrafts and SAM posts along side the canal.
Pilot/ M. Z. Okasha, who was responsible for collecting the remaining air-worthy MiG-21's after 1967 war and form a squadron in Tanta AFB, said in his memoirs:
"We went to an AFB that was in bad shape, and did not have any concrete bunkers, we started to enable this AFB from scratch, it was an engineering battle, even local farmers volunteered and used their farm animals to transport construction materials, Concrete bunkers were built in a record time"
Nearly 4000 civilian construction workers died during Israeli air raids on newly constructed sites, workers used to resume work even between successive raids, specially in the SAM Missile Wall project along side the canal.
Thanks for the great info buddy. I really like ur posts in this thread. Keep up with the good work.
Thanks a lot, I promise to keep up
Can you substantiate this?
I guess that they were living close to the airfields when the IAF bombed them during the War of Attrition.
Back to the engineering battle along side the canal to build was is so called "SAM Missile Wall":
- When the War of Attrition started, Israel began to feel bleeding casualities, Israel decided to retaliate using the Internal Front Pressure in which deep air raids are conducted on mainly Air Defense Posts and civilian facilities targets (Petroleum refineries, Power stations, Large industrial complex,...) to impose a daily-life huge pressure on the Egyptian People to urge them rioting against the government and create chaos status, and to give the Egyptiana the feeling that Israel dominated the skies and could reach any where in Egypt, the thing that will lead to low moral and lose the hope.
- Israel conducted 3 major waves:
-- Dec 1969 IAF dropped thousands of bombs on Egyptian fortifications along side the canal using at least 264 aircrafts.
-- Begining of 1970 IAF stepped into second line which was El-Tall El-kibir / Inshas / Dahshour / Wadi Houf / Helwan
-- Jan. 1970 IAF Raided Abu Zaabal Industrial Complex.
But the complete oposite happened, A huge collabration wave of meetings with all kind of civil organizations and labour unions and government officials including president Nasser were held. People relaized the Israeli plan.
President Nasser flew to Moscow secretly later in Jan. 1970 , agreed with the Soviets on defending the strategic depth and major cities using the famous soviet SAM batteries.
In just 40 days, Egypt collected almost all construction workers to build a huge number of missile posts under endless Israeli air raids, till the missile wall was ready and defended the Egyptian Strategic depth. more details will follow shortly , thanks
Well, endless numbers of books and memoirs from top brass Egptian Armed Forces leaders in cluding Foad Nassar - Head of military Intelligence, Mohamed Ali Fahmy - Air Defense Commander, Saad El-Shazli - Chief of staff , they all have mentioned the famous engineering battle to build the Missile Wall including the participation of all construction companies in this battle with civilian casualities in construction workers 4000 ~ 6000 deaths.
Foad Nassar said in his memoirs:
"I have visited many SAM missile posts during construction, the situation was horrible, I have seen some of them being bombed even when thier concrete is not yet dry, many civilian casualities in construction workers were fallen, I knew their must have been spies who tell the Israelies about the positions.
As a test, we began building fake decoy posts, and they imeadiatly are bombed. We must double our efforts to catch those spies, or else the whole operation will be endangered.
After a remarkable intelligence work, Lt. Col. Farouk El-Fikki who held a sensitive position in the central command, was arrested and confessed that he supplied the Israelis with maps describing all the work to be done in Missile Wall. He also admitted that he was trapped by Mossad through his fiance Heba Selim who was also caught by egyptian intelligence.
Heba Selim was one of the most important spies for Israel in Egypt, she was brought to Israel where she met Golda Meir, Maeer Amit, Mike Hararry during her trapping procedure.
Heba was excuted later in a prison in Cairo
El-Fikki was excuted by his superior officier who asked president sadat for an exception to join the Execution Squadron.
Another source about the Missile Wall engineering achievement:
Othman A. Othman - Founder of Arab Contractors, the largest construction company in the middle east, and later a Minister of Housing, He stated in an interview of the egyptian news paper Al-Akhbar, that his company was one of the many many construction companies that were assigned to build the missile wall.
He stated that the rate of the israeli raids was immense, he said posts were bombed while still concrete is wet, some of them were bombed 5 times in row. He even lost 500 workers in one day.
He also stated that he was interrogated by Egyptian General Intellegince two times, agents showed him an engineering drawing of a missile bunker, he admitted that his company built that type. He then was faced by an engineer called Mohamed Metwalli Mandoor, this engineer admitted that he handed-over this design to some germans who asked him to work for them and was given a large amount of money, but he did not think they were Israelis.
Source:
http://www.akhbarelyom.org.eg/elakhb...C3%CE%ED%D1%C9
SAM Sites, NOT Concrete Aircraft Shelters
Thanks for clearly proving the point: the initial assertion is false.
That the SAM sites have been attacked and bombed is true and well-known.
Now, writing that 4000 people were killed while constructing concrete aircraft shelters is simply not true, and was gratuitous dramatization.
During Attrition war the IDF/AF attacked the SAM sites, not the aircraft shelters. Lots of people got killed on those SAM sites, alright. That maybe a few blokes working on an aircraft shelter got killed as collateral damage of an attack on something else, that's possible.
But not nearly 4000, no way.
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The photos are nice, and always interesting. Especially those from media in Arabic, which we do not see often in the West. Thanks for posting them.
The blahblah of nationalistic commentaries does not improve anything. Especially when the fanboism takes liberties with the historical truth, like above.
See in other threads, the best ones are those sticking to photos without nationalism. Countless Indo-Pak threads have been ruined this way. Let's not do the same to this one. The people who fell on each side deserve better than that.
Well, the number 4000 ~ 6000 civilian workers lost during building the SAM Missile Wall is very realistic and proven from many Egyptian figuers I mentioned above.
To prove that, let's look at the numbers:
- 1.6 Million m3 of reinforced concrete
- 1.4 Million m3 of ordinary concrete
- 12.5 Million m3 of earth moving and replacement work
- 4000 km of non-asfalt roads
- 800 km of asfalt roads
- Several thousands of pre-fabricated shelters
Source: El-Gamasi book , page: 182
How many workers can you imagine are needed to accomplish this miracle in 39 Days under heavy bombing raids and intense artillery barrages??
The issue of 4,000 Egyptian civillian casualties in the War of Attrition is as incredulous as it is off topic.
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