PKM Vs M60 Vs MG-3

[FW200]

Hmm, about the PKM scope.. I recently saw this picture of 76th Guards Airborne on their trip to China:



If you look in the background, you can see a Pecheneg with a scope, from the look of it, it might be the 1P29. The 1P29 has a elevation cam for the PKM so that would make sense..
The guy in front also has a 1P29 on his Ak-74M..

[RomanS]

Do You Have A High Res Of This Photo?

[Jippo]

If you look in the background, you can see a Pecheneg with a scope, from the look of it, it might be the 1P29.

"but the standard sight is the SPP telescope sight, with 3-6X variable magnification and built-in rangefinding reticle."



http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm


-jippo

[FW200]

Sorry, don't have a high-res one available.
I do have another, sadly not as high-res but it shows that the scope is quite high on the Pecheneg :


Reason for me thinking it's a pecheneg: carrying handle, bipod at the front instead of at the gastube, box mag like on the PKM.
Sorry for pushing the thread offtopic..

[RomanS]

More please

[Hydro]

Is that 1P29 a copy of the British SUIT?

[FW200]

Yes, it has some modifications for use on Ak style weapons but it's basicly the same. It also features an interchangable elevation cam for 3 rifles (Ak-74, RPK-74 and PKM).

I do not have any other pictures atm, those 2 were the only ones showing the scope in use on a pecheneg. Offcourse, I could be wrong, it might be another sight. I'm only human

[Major Maxillary]

Here's something for those of you who want to have a PKM with disintegrating belts...

http://www.zmt.tarnow.pl/produkcja_wojskowa/pkme.html


ukm wz.2000 or UKM 2000- a PKM modification chambered for 7,62x51 rounds and using standard NATO disitegrating belts...

We have ourselves a winner!

[Michael RVR]

I've never used anything bar the Mag 58, but wouldn't have any problem choosing it. Keep it lubed up and with a decent supply of barrels and i reckon they'd keep firing forever

[GazB]

Just looking at the photos shown of the Pecheneg I'd guess it is either the 1P-29 sight, which is intended for use on the AK-74N, RPK-74N and PKMN weapons... so use on the Pecheneg makes sense too, or I thought it might have been the 1PN93-3 as this night sight is specially designed for 7.62 x 54 weapons like SVD and PKM... of course these pictures are day time pics so the 1P-29 makes rather more sense. (1PN93-3 uses either a 2+ or 3 generation Image Intensification tube)

V nice pics BTW.

We have ourselves a winner!

Nice, but how could it be considered a winner? The people that currently use PKMs can't use it because they dont' use that calibre, and the people who do use that calibre aren't going to use a Russian weapon are they?

[RomanS]

I love how GazB educates us all with just a little bit of words.

Thank you GAZ for every informative post you post. I and many of my friends here appreciate your input and support for our side! ! !

Cheers bro!

I will be firing Pecheneg with my friends this summer. StukaJr and I will document this event in depth!

[Onkel]

I'll go with the FN MAG.

[TacoDelRio]

FN Mk 48

http://www.fnmfg.com/products/m249fam/mk48mod0.htm
Caliber: 7.62 mm NATO
Barrel: 4.59 lbs.
Overall Weight: 18.26 lbs.
Barrel Length: 19.75 in.
Rate of Fire: 710 ± 50 rds/min (Cylic)
Range: 3600 m (Max.)
800 m (Max. Effective)

19lbs unloaded? Doesn't sound right.

[GazB]

Sorry to raise a dead thread, but:

I will be firing Pecheneg with my friends this summer. StukaJr and I will document this event in depth!

When you do could you check something for me?

According to Rosoboronexport (the Russian international trading organistation):

Pecheneg can fire all types of 7.62x54mm rounds. The weapon is fed from a 25- or 50-round disintegrating metal belt. Loaded belts are transported in boxes for 100 and 200 rounds each.

If this is correct doesn't that change a few things? ie you can run around with 25 rounds attached to the gun, or you can have 4 x 25 round belts or 2 x 50 round belts in a 100 round box etc etc... with no empty belt slapping between your legs as you run.

Would very much appreciate some vids of your testing this weapon... the few bits I have seen it seems to be very accurate.

[GazB]

Just looked at some video of the Pecheneg and its seems to use non disintegrating link... :confused:

Perhaps it is an export option?