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    There are a lot of muslim areas around the world that are seeking autonomy or independence from their non-muslim parent countries.
    Now there are people in Bali Indonesia, who are predominantly Hindu in a predominantly muslim country, who are seeking autonomy from Indonesia.

    http://www.journeyman.tv/?lid=55914

    VATSIKOPOULOS: For thousands of years Bali has resisted the ravages of history. When Islam swept away Hinduism in the rest of Indonesia, it flourished here in Bali. It became a haven for fleeing Hindu priests, artists, dancers and musicians. Because Bali is special, it’s now demanding special treatment from Jakarta.

    NYOMAN RUDANA: In some places the cultural heritage is already dead – it doesn’t exist anymore. In Bali, many of those things exist and because of that we need special care.

    VATSIKOPOULOS: Art collector, Nyoman Rudana, is speaking out for Bali. He’s now free to do so since being elected in a new assembly designed to give the provinces a voice.

    NYOMAN RUDANA: Especially after the bomb, most Balinese opened their eyes and we feel special autonomy is necessary.

    VATSIKOPOULOS: He’s one of four Balinese politicians who’ve just drafted a bill demanding special autonomy from Jakarta and established a team of prominent Balinese to push the agenda. Such a thing would have been considered unthinkable, even treasonous during the repressive Suharto years but a precedent has already been set.

    NYOMAN RUDANA: … and Aceh, because all of them are Muslims, they gave special autonomy to Aceh.

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    I would support this.
    It's not right that so much of Bali's wealth gets diverted to the rest of Indonesia. They should have more control over their land, government and money. This may seem a bit hypocritical since I don't support the muslim seperatists in other countries but this is a bit different since Indonesia was once a Hindu country and now they only have this one area left.

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    I been there great place. Very friendly people stayed at the Malesti Bungalow across the AllStar Cafe. I support their autonomy bid. I can't believe those ****ers did that to the Sari club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minardiau
    With the exception of Western New Guinea I do not support any further break up of Indonesia.

    The general security and economic factors for Australia are at risk.
    Why would an autonomous or even an independent Bali put Austraila's economy or security at risk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minardiau
    With the exception of Western New Guinea I do not support any further break up of Indonesia.

    The general security and economic factors for Australia are at risk.
    What happen to Socialism and helping out the poor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minardiau
    With the exception of Western New Guinea I do not support any further break up of Indonesia.

    The general security and economic factors for Australia are at risk.
    This the yellow peril i hear australians talking about?

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    there's the mollucan islands as well these are predominantly christians and have been fighting for independance for 50 years!

    truth is (imo) Indonesia should never have been an independant nation in the first place, it used to be our west indies empire (the emerald belt) and was not conquered at once but one nation at the time, these nations went to an occupation from the Hague to an occupation from Jakarta.

    imo it's (was?) only a matter of time that this situation blows up

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    ed you go a lot of places man anyways eah bali is great and they make quite a bit of money in those area due to tourism but like every other place in the world big on tourism there is the tourist bali and then there is bali where the actual residents live and its not that great but they still got good surfing

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    [QUOTE=AceoFBase]There are a lot of muslim areas around the world that are seeking autonomy or independence from their non-muslim parent countries.
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    Id say its a foolish decision to go this way. There is extremist nutjobs that will always claim that bali is a Islamic province and will conduct even more terrorism against her if she leaves indonesia. Not to mention what Indonesia will do, take a look at east timor. They just *****ed the place over.

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    its like australia where they wanted to live under there law
    and not australian and the simple reply to that is no fu** go back to your own fu**in country and live under it there we live this way because its our country not yours if you dont like it get the fu** out. Same with the japanesse those mutha fu**as are every where in australia man they need to stop ahvin so many kids there called ******s use them its cheaper anyways. Dont get me wrong I dont hate a certain group or anything just pointin it out

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