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    Quote Originally Posted by mladina
    What is the difference between 2nd parachute regiment(described in RAID magazin) and 1st parachute commando regiment? Any more info on 71st air mobile brigade?
    Well if we are talking about a Regiment this could be the Reserves Regiment.
    Curently there is 1 Commandos Parachute Regiment. In War time a Second one would be activated and ready for Action.
    Most probably this magazine would mean the 2nd Parachute Squadron (2 MAL - 2 Moira Alexiptotiston) based in Maleme Airport in Crete. The 1st Parachute Squadron is based in Aspropirgos near Athens.

    As for the 71st Air-Mobile Brigade
    Well its part of the Elite forces (like the 32nd Marines Brigade and the Commandos Regiment) but not exactly Special Operations Forces since like that could only described the ETA, DYK, Z MAK and 31MEE.
    The Air Mobile Brigade uses UH-1H and CH-47D Chinook Helicopters (real soon the UH-1H will retire and they will use the NH-90) and C-130 and C-27J "Spartan" aircrafts for fast deployment anywhere the Command need them to condact Offensive (mainly) and Defensive operations.
    Its a new Brigade formed in 2001 in the place of the 71st Infantry Brigade
    Its men uses M-16A2 and M4A1 Rifles with Trijicon Acog Scopes (not all the soldiers only the team "sniper" HK11 submachine gun and FN-MAG and M2H2 0,50 Machinegun's they Use Carl Gustavs Anti Tank Missiles and MILAN based in the VBL Panhard Amphibius Vechicle they use. They have and Air-Mobile Artilery Squadron with M-56 Pack Howitzers and a A/A Squadron with Stinger Missiles. the 71st Air Mobile Personell wear the Red Beret while the Commandos and Paratroopers wear the Green Beret.
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    P.S. I had the honour to serve my millitary time in this unit. Now the 80% of the Personel of the unit are professionals....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREEK-AIRBORNE
    Dear @mikeytwo
    There is not such thing like "13 Syntagma (Regiment) Amfivion Katadromon.
    Sorry for not clearing it up enough

    There is the 13 Dioikish Eidikon Epihiriseon (13 Special operations Command) -13 DEE
    in the 13 DEE belongs units like
    ETA -Eidiko Tmima Aleksiptotiston (Special Paratroopers Unit) of the Hellenic Army
    Z'MAK -Z Moira Amfivion Katadromon (Z Amhibius Commandos Squadron) of the Hellenic Army
    31MEE -31 Moira Eidikon Epihiriseon (31 Special operations Squadron) of the Hellenic Air Force
    DYK- Dioikisi Ypovrihion Katastrophon- Underwater Demolitions Command of the Hellenic Navy

    Hellenic Army has the 1st Infantry division
    There belongs the units
    1 Sintagma Katadromon Aleksiptotison (1st Commandos - Paratroopers Regiment )
    32 Taksiarhia Pezonafton (32nd Marines Brigade)
    71 Aerometaferomeni Taksiarhia (71st Air-Mobile Brigade)

    So the Amphibius Commandos Belongs to the 1 Sintagma Katadromon Aleksiptotison (1st Commandos - Paratroopers Regiment )

    The Z MAK formed in 26 August 1996 its completly Professional. It belongs to General staff Command of the Secretary of Deffence and it has nothing in common with the rest MAK that belongs to 1st Commandos - Paratroopers Regiment

    I hope i cleared it up. If you any questions feel free to ask...
    Okay, now I'm confused. Do the Amphibious Commandos belong to the 32nd Marine Brigade or to the 1st Commando-Parchute Regiment? And what's the role of the Marine Brigade? Strictly amphibious operations or do the also also conduct raids? Also, how many Parachute Commando squadrons are there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique
    Okay, now I'm confused. Do the Amphibious Commandos belong to the 32nd Marine Brigade or to the 1st Commando-Parchute Regiment? And what's the role of the Marine Brigade? Strictly amphibious operations or do the also also conduct raids? Also, how many Parachute Commando squadrons are there?
    Ok i will try to make it clear answering one by one the questions...
    Do the Amphibious Commandos belong to the 32nd Marine Brigade or to the 1st Commando-Parchute Regiment?
    The Amphibious Commandos Belong to the 1st Commando-Parachute Regiment.

    what's the role of the Marine Brigade? Strictly amphibious operations or do the also also conduct raids?
    Marines of the 32nd Brigade mainly condact Amphibius operations with the LST's and the ZUBR's Hovercrafts. Ofcourse once they land in the island/shore they then condact the raid or the operation they have ordered to do.

    how many Parachute Commando squadrons are there?
    Curently there are 2 Squadrons. 1st MAL(Moira ALeksiptotiston- Parachute Squadron) in Aspropirgos and 2nd MAL in Maleme- Crete. In War time a 3rd MAL will be formed.
    Also there is an Autonomous Parachute unit the ETA. they are the Elit of the Paratroopers in Greece and they also jump from high altitudes during night etc..

    More About Hellenic Special Forces can be found here
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=53823

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    Greek Airborne, any chance you could post a detailed ORBAT of the various elite Greek units (Airborne, Commando, SOF, CT)?

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    ORBAT?
    Sorry for the silly question but what exactly do you want me to post?
    I have a lot of pictures from Greek Special and Elite units and i will post them later...
    stay tuned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREEK-AIRBORNE
    ORBAT?
    Order of battle.

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    Swiss SF called Fallschirmaufklärer





















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    Hellenic Elite Forces

    1st Commando- Parachute Regiment

    During the WWII Greek Commandos was fighting belonging to the "Ieros Lochos" (Sacred Company)
    After the WWII in December of 1946 a proposal by Colonel Andreas Kalinskis is accepted. The Proposal was to form 40 Independent "Lochous Oreinon Katadromon- LOK" (Mountain Commandos Company) In June 1947 there are 80 Companies of mountain Commandos and 4 Squadrons of LOK is formed. the A', B', C', and D' Squadrons. In 1949 there are 2 Commandos Brigades and the fifth LOK Squadron is Formed. (E' Squadron)
    Today after many changes in the structure and the names finaly since 1st January 2003 the 1st Commando- Parachute Regiment is a fact after entering in the new formation the Paratroopers.
    They are organized in 2 squadrons. The 1st Parachute Squadron in Aspropirgos and the 2nd Parachute Squadron in Maleme.
    They trained to conduct:
    -Support of the Tactical operations
    -Special Operations
    -Unconditional Warfare
    Ofcourse the Paratroopers are trained to condact Air Landings and Typical Airborne operations.

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    Amphibius Commandos Unit
    They belong to the 13rd SAK "Sintagma Amphivion Katadromon" (13rd Amphibius Commandos Regiment) Which operates in the Islands. Their mission is to conduct amphibius operations in the Aegean.








    32 Taksiarchia Pezonafton - 32 Marines Brigade-

    The 32nd Marines brigade was formed in 1988 taking the place of the existing 32nd Marine Regiment. They are a rapid deployment force and their main mission is the Amphibius Attack. They use the "Samos type" LST's and the ZUBR Hovercrafts of the Hellenic Navy. They also have Leo1A5 MBT, M113 and Leonidas APC and they soon will aquire modern Amphibius Vechicles .(most probably AAV's or BMP-3F) The Brigade also represend Greece in international operations and NATO Exersises

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    With Desert Camo






    71 Aerometaferomeni Taksiarchia 71st Airmobile Brigade

    The71st Air Mobile Brigade uses UH-1H and CH-47D Chinook Helicopters (real soon the UH-1H will retire and they will use the NH-90) and C-130 and C-27J "Spartan" aircrafts for fast deployment anywhere the Command need them to condact Offensive (mainly) and Defensive operations.
    Its a new Brigade formed in 2001 in the place of the 71st Infantry Brigade
    Its men uses M-16A2 and M4A1 Rifles with Trijicon Acog Scopes (not all the soldiers only the team "sniper" HK11 submachine gun and FN-MAG, FN Minimi and M2H2 0,50 Machinegun's they Use Carl Gustavs Anti Tank Missiles and MILAN based in the VBL Panhard Amphibius Vechicle they use. They have and Air-Mobile Artilery Squadron with M-56 Pack Howitzers and a A/A Squadron with Stinger Missiles. the 71st Air Mobile Personell wear the Red Beret while the Commandos and Paratroopers wear the Green Beret.



















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    Thanks for the additional info. It clears up a few things for me. The ETA profile is the one I wrote many years ago for Specwarnet.

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    is cool Australian Special force man.

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    Are Z MAK and 13th SAK separate units or one unit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp
    Are Z MAK and 13th SAK separate units or one unit?
    They are separate units. Z MAK does not belong anywhere. they are an autonomous unit controled by the National Defence General Staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keveaton_05
    I seam to remember reading something about a Hellenic coastguard special operations capable unit can you shed any light on them?
    Hellenic Coast Guard has two Special forces units. They are the
    MYA/ΛΣ -Monada Ipovrichion Apostolon/ Limeniko Soma- (Underwater Missions Unit/Coast Guard)
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    OEA –Omada Eidikon Apostolon (Special Missions Unit)

    An interesting article by the Today's deputy commandant of the Hellenic Coast Guard Rear Admiral Ilias Sionides.

    For two decades the Special Missions Unit (SMU) of the Hellenic Coast Guard has quietly operated without much public attention. However, their counter-terrorist security preparations and presence during the Athens 2004 Olympics, along with the increasing frequency of gun battles with organized crime along Greek borders has raised their public profile. In the 1980s the emergence of terrorism, especially the cruise ship Achille Lauro hijacking, and better-armed organized crime led the Hellenic Coast Guard leadership to recognize the need for special units who would be trained and equipped to meet the new challenges and in 1987 it was decided to form a unit initially known as the Anti-Terrorist Squad.
    A subordinate element of the Greek Ministry of Merchant Marine, this special unit recruits young career Coast Guard personnel who have already served in the military with Greek SOF (special forces, paratrooper, amphibious or mountain raiders, or marines). They select the best of these personnel during a two-month rigorous training program that simulates the difficult conditions of their service. Afterwards, a unit member can count on advanced SOF schooling throughout their career from a wide variety of both military and police schools, foreign and domestic.
    They will normally be assigned to one of 20 Special Operational Detachments (SOD), which are scattered around Greece’s many entrance points. These detachments have been so successful that another five SODs were activated in May 2005 and are bring brought up to strength and will be operational soon. Within an SOD members may serve on a regular Special Operations Team (SOT), or may be assigned eventually to one of the specialist teams such as niper, EOD and chemical biological radiological nuclear), VIP protection, and serious crimes team.
    Physical conditioning and expert use of weapons, both at sea and in close-quarters battle is constantly trained and stressed in the unit. Since these personnel are expected to operate in situations where the average law enforcement agent would be out-gunned, sharp reflexes and quick critical thinking make up an important part of both selection and training. When they are called upon, they know it is probably a dangerous case that ordinary Coast Guard or Greek Police are neither trained nor equipped to handle, yet may have legal implications that place it outside the competence and jurisdiction of the military.
    Standard team equipment includes MP-5 or sonic suppressed MP-5SD 9 mm submachine guns, M16 and M203 5.56mm rifles with 40 mm grenade launchers, Glock 18 and USP Compact 9 mm pistols, Benelli short stock rifles, and Belgian 5.56 mm light and 7.62 mm medium machine guns. Special Operations Team RHIB (rigid hulled inflatable boat) boats are fast, well-equipped with bright white and infrared lights, surface radar, a variety of communications gear and bristling with machine guns up to .50 caliber Brownings. For fighting against high-speed infiltrations (50 knots), the teams use their Swedish-built Combat Boat 90H which can carry up to 21 armed personnel and up to 4.5 tons of cargo while cruising at 40+ knots. Lighter loads allow sprint speeds that make these boats quite competitive with would-be infiltrators.
    Teams in the northwest in the Corfu Channel principally combat narcotics and arms trafficking against a highly organized opponent. All team members who have worked this area consider it a constant combat zone with high-volume firepower exchanges possible at any time. The SMU’s only acknowledged loss, 25 year-old Marinos Zambatis, was killed in action during one of these battles.
    Patrolling their western borders further south brings them into contact with the classic contraband smugglers (mostly cigarettes and small arms) and of course, illegal aliens of all types. These crime networks often use clever concealment devices to hide people, weapons and drugs, but they will back down more quickly when shown the overwhelming firepower of an SOT.
    A typical operation occurs at night as heavily armed smugglers with nothing to lose attempt to cross in Greek waters from the straights between Albania and Greece with a load of drugs, or a rickety boat overloaded with illegal immigrants is moved close to a rocky coastline, the crew knowing that ordinary Coast Guard would have their hands too full to worry about them should they begin to scuttle the ship or ram it onto the rocks. But an SOT also may be called during a maritime crisis, such as when a ferry struck the rocks outside Paros harbor during rough weather and hundreds of people were in danger. That’s when their airmobile, ship boarding and search and rescue skills all come together on no-notice, high-risk rescue missions.
    Greece has a history tied to the sea. Even today, nearly 60 percent of international maritime trade has some connection to Greece (flagging/registration, ship ownership, operation or crews). Its numerous islands and long stretches of rugged coastline have long encouraged small boat trade and commerce. Today, Greece itself is a crossroad that criminals and terrorists would like to freely cross. That brave men are also there, sharply trained and ready to face danger and hardships is something for which all of us should be thankful. O
    Article by the Hellenic Coast Guard (HCG), with advice from Rear Admiral Ilias Sionides, deputy commandant of the HCG.
    http://www.special-operations-techno...cfm?DocID=1177

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    Quote Originally Posted by GREEK-AIRBORNE
    They are separate units. Z MAK does not belong anywhere. they are an autonomous unit controled by the National Defence General Staff.


    According to this chart Z'MAk is subordinated to 13 SAK. Is it wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch Rapp


    According to this chart Z'MAk is subordinated to 13 SAK. Is it wrong?
    Well if you could read Greek you would see that with blue letters write
    Diefthinsi Eidikon Epichiriseon (13DEE)
    Proin 13 SAK
    which translates
    Special Operation Command (13SOC)
    Former 13 SAK

    Also note that while A' MAK and C' MAK are written with Green Letters the Z'MAK is written with Red
    This is not by luck but it has to do with the autonomous role that Z' MAK has

    Unfortunatelly the last years there are very often changes in the structure that's why there is this confusion...

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