Reply With QuoteThank you for answering Karo. I meaned pics which are rare, but thanks.
The picture shows definitely a Thale Modell B II (displayed in the museum in Dresden) and not a NVA helmet. The picture is from a book and so the logo of the Bundesarchiv may be different - probably the author just wanted to put in the source of his picture. For a comparison, here is a picture of the NVA helmet (M56):
Ventless M42 helmets are often claimed to be M45, but im also not sure if those are real ones or just post war fakes.
Here is picture of such one:
and a period pic of a M45, so at least they had to exist once:
Last edited by Karo; 01-02-2009 at 06:09 PM.
Thank you for answering Karo. I meaned pics which are rare, but thanks.
I know a lot of criticism and sceptics about it... What is the museum in Dresden? If it be the truth that experts-collectors would have photos or real prototipe.
I read many forums and talked to experts in Russia about that. Many people think this prototype a fairy tale for Е-Bay. Some people do many fantastic things for sale.
Look at this Exhibit... May be that "handmade" of M45 (I think it)...
There are many Nazi helmets was in DDR after WaR... Poor economy after war. Simply small punching to the bend of helmet. Look! One of econom (сheap manufacture) variant - re'made all Nazi helmets for NVA DDR. We can see "waves" after pressings. This is one of variant of design. And in this time was born it "fairy tale" about new Nazi design for NVA DDR... Probably first NVA helmets was made to this way....
Or... It is the successful deceit and invention of one swindler. The Master - "skilful and dexterous" hands. Nobody has saw more than one helmet and only on suspicious picture... I think "handmade" type is not present in museums. We can see only one-two on E-bay... He-he-he!!!
This is my opinion.
Real "handmade"..., or bad q work...
Or this.... In this photo more better pressing of M45 on factory. Have "lined" all! And cut the edge...
And new design for NVA DDR (when Nazi helmets was finished????? or factories began to work better???).
It absolutely other design and manufacturing. Look at equal slopes...:
Last edited by Bachelor; 01-03-2009 at 07:58 AM.
The museum in Dresden is called Militärhistorisches Musem der Bundeswehr. Your pics show surely some NVA helmets. These ones had this lid which the Thale model seemed not to have. Also the liner seems to me to be a NVA one.
Edit: Sorry, no offense against you, but I cant follow really due to the bad grammar in your sentences. I know its a really hard discussed and often faked thing. But at least im certain that the one posted by me is a real one.
Here is a big thread about this topic:
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=thale+dresden
Last edited by Karo; 01-02-2009 at 07:48 PM.
Yes... Sorry for my bad English... But I think you understand what I mean about that helmet.Originally Posted by Karo
Is this museum?
Link:
http://www.militaerhistorisches-muse...e/portal/a/mhm
New find in the Waffen SS blindage near Leningrad. Spring 2008. Depth of 5 metres.... This is Waffen SS helmet in a winter white paint...
Not my photos...
Last edited by Bachelor; 01-03-2009 at 07:17 AM.
Yes. No problem for speaking not that good english. Im also doing mistakes, but i hope that its still understandable.
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concerning the found SS helmet:
Im a bit sceptical about this found. The liner/whole helmet look too good imo. After resting in 5m depth for about 65 years, it should look worse. I own a helmet from this time and it layed just in a cellar for this period, and it looks worse. Just my 2 cents..
Photos from the post not mine. I have found these photos on one of the Russian digger's forums. It not legal diggers. They work for money.... I think, this is a theatre for E-bay. I know diggers but they never found old things on a field in ideal condition. It is a theatre as about prototype М45/56...
People in Russia speak: "Don't trust own eyes!".
This one has badly..., but REAL.
Last edited by Bachelor; 01-03-2009 at 07:56 AM.
I have added pic in my post for good understanding.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...postcount=1703
Last edited by Bachelor; 01-02-2009 at 10:18 PM.
If it's lodged in clay it's possible to be preserved. The lack of air and bacteria keeps the condition to almost new, much like mummified bodies found in bogs. Although I agree, the liner does like very intact, considering it would have been worn and should have sweat marks atleast.
Bachelor, Thank you for the nice images!
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