Good point.Originally Posted by akmarksman
SWAT/LE teams have a slight advantage over infantry, in regards to changing batteries, supplies, and some time, even though stuff happens "alluvasudden".
No one has mentioned it..but what about SWAT/SRT/HRT teams that have on gas masks..you can't always get the proper sight alignment when you go to mount that shotty to your shoulder.
That's the plus side to a red-dot sight..the downside is battery..unless you use a ACOG Tri-power..(3 illumination sources)
Good point.Originally Posted by akmarksman
SWAT/LE teams have a slight advantage over infantry, in regards to changing batteries, supplies, and some time, even though stuff happens "alluvasudden".
I know the Marines use the new Benelli M1014..which has a rail..I'm guessing for those times they're MOPP'ed...or a peeqy..(AN/PEQ)
I'm modying an 870 tactical 12.gauge.
So far I replaced the buttstock with a synthetic pistol grip one.
I'm looking to put on a side saddle, barrel shroud, replace the front forestick with one of the forestock/maglite combos. Probably also looking at picking up a pistol grip folding stick (folding along the top of the reciever instead of the side).
Does anyone know of any good quality companies that sell this stuff? (preferably Canadian) I wasn't too happy with the company I got the stock off of. Costed almost half as much as the gun and it actually looked used.
Anyone have any pics of their modified shotguns?
Remington actually began their own production of a similar tactical shotgun, the 870 MAX. It has an extended mag tube, pistol grip stock, ghost ring sights, and a surefire forend grip. It's pretty nice.
http://www.remingtonle.com/shotguns/870pmax.htm
I don't know about the reliability of any of the other companies, but the Surefire dedicated forend light is an excellent light system.
I've got a top folding CHOATE stock. Don't know where to get them anymore, sorry.
As for a fore-end, go with a Surefire. Don't get some grabass piece of crap fake cheap maglite deal. You'll be wasting money. Believe me, I used to sell 870's and people used to buy sh*t accessories for them and complain when their ATI stock broke in half.
I've got a Surefire RAS deal on mine, since it's cheaper (already had a light) and I could put a vert grip on it (makes this thing a friggin' jackhammer).
I put a heat shield / shroud on mine. First time in the field, if flew off after about 4 rounds, tearing my front sight off and flying into the snow in the desert. I saved the shield, put it back on, and it flew back off a few months ago in the desert. Waste of money. There are better shrounds out there, but I dunno, I just wear gloves. Sometimes you get burned, oh well. Mossberg has much better ones already installed. I don't know of any good ones aftermarket-wise for an 870.
Here's mine:
Heat shield and sh*tty truglo sight installed (before the second flight of the shield)
Minutes after the thing flew off. The saddle came off too. Piece of crap. Then again I do kinda beat the living snot out of my tools.
Sorry if I didn't spell anything properly, or punctuate it. I type fast and no longer care about my spelling.![]()
Thanks for the link.
Nice pics.
I liked the look cool factor of the top top folding stock but I'd probably end up shooting it too much like that and get smashed in the face.
[I saw a kid shatter his nose. He used a hack saw and sawed the bareel and stock off his maverick 12.gau and tried to shoot it]
I'll probably pick up the top folding one just to **** around with it but I think i'll stick to the pistol grip with full stock.
I'm torn between getting a barrel shroud with the ghost rings already attached and getting some kinda holosight. Since I'm in Canada the barrel extention isn't really an option, considering i'm suposed to only have 3 rounds in it. If I opt for the ghost ring sights I think it may be more worth while to actually get them attached to the receiver.
I'll throw up some pics when I add a few more things on.
Got a link to the shroud with sights? I hope it isn't the one I think it is (ATI)...
I like my folding stock. I do lots of mountainclimbing and training, so it's nice to have the stock folded out of the way strapped to my rucksack. If you're purely shooting, I'd go with a full stock. Folding stocks are there for portability, since I carry it around alot more than I shoot it.
Hope the links work:
Ace
Advanced Technology (ATI)
Aimtech
Bell & Carlson
Boyds' | Boyds'
Butler Creek (Michael's of Oregon)
Cavalry Arms
Choate Stocks | Choate Machine & Tool
Factory Tactical
GG&G
HiViz
Hogue
Knights Manufacturing (KAS)
Knoxx Industries
Lasermax
Meprolight
Mesa Tactical
MMC
Precision Sights
Sage
Sidearmor
Speedfeed
StockShox
SureCycle
SureFire
TacStar
Truglo
Vang Comp Systems
Wilson Combat
XS Sights
Webshops
Gun Accessories
For Remington 870-freaks
Remington MCS | Mil. Shotguns
Remington LE (Law Enforcement)
KNoxx industries makes great stocks, recoil reducing. If you want a pistol grip stock, get the Knoxx specops, AR-15 colapsable withrecoil reduction. You'll find that all the folding stocks are really uncomforatable to shoot if you shoot with any kind of check weld.
Messa Tacticle or Scattergun Tech make great rails and saddle carriers
The tac-star saddle carrier works great, and its fairly cheap. Its the only tac-star part I'd install, the rest are low quality in my opinion.
IF your going to get a light, get the surefire forend, its exspensive, but worth it. Its a rock and won't break. everything else is a compromise.
Barrel shrouds aren't nessesary, if your shooting that much (in real life, not the range) your probably already screwed, but they do look cool.
It's not a Rem but Mossy, it gives you idea of what you can do to a stock shotty.
Surefire forward grip with light, SpeedFeed stock, Sidesaddle, and Specter tactical sling.
Also sandblasted the shotty and refinished in Guncote OD Green.
Same here, I've dealt with them before and after, a great bunch as well, I had a pretty weird request a while back for them(I thought it was weird) and they came through for me.Originally Posted by ABNINF
Would recommend them to anyone looking for a well made sling and at a decent price.
Myself having used MrSkorotsnoy's ugly assed shotty I have to say it was one of the most effective point and shoot weapons I've ever held in my hands. That doesn't mean I still don't want to puke just looking at the poor thing![]()
Haha!!! It's ugly but it works. And it works after all that sand, especially since I got rid of that "high speed" follower that jammed up easily. Piece of crap.Originally Posted by Laworkerbee
I have one of those CQB solutions / Spectre Gear slings, good setup, got it for M16A2/A4's, worked pretty well.