TNI in Gallery (the New Photos)

[Kopassus]

Sorry, this is the only picture i can find on internet.

Oya, this is the weaponry of Makassar klas:
Armament:'A' position: Bofors 40mm SAK40/L70
'B' position: 20mm Oerlikon

[Kopassus]

[quote=Master Chief;3515117][quote=alsadiyarto;3511045]
KRI Surabaya...new amphibious ship, locally built with assistance from South Korea, based on South Korean LPD design...


quote]

Negative.
The first two LPD, KRI Makassar-590 & KRI Surabaya-591 were built in Korea. The 3rd & 4th then are supposed to be built by PT PAL (anybody can update the progress ?).

[quote]
The first two units are built in Busan, South Korea and the remaining two at Indonesia's PT PAL shipyard in Surabaya.
On 19 October 2006, the first of the two Indonesian-built units, was laid down in a ceremony by Admiral Slamet Subiyanto, Chief of Staff, Indonesian Navy

[karbol]

Everybody can see the difference between a nursery room (aka dressing room aka first aid room) & a hospital. For TNI-AL's LPDs, it's a hospital, not a nursery room. In one battle zone, the LPD is the hospital ship. The wounded personnel from all warships (friends & foes) in that zone will be sent to this LPD for further treatment, as necessary. It has one or more full operating theatres, medical teams with doctors & surgeons, & hospital beds (can't tell exactly how many).
Most likely the ship color won't be (& can't be) changed into white. The red-cross sign can be portable.

Now back to my question, can we shoot this LPD ?

yes, the enemy can shoot the LPD. especially KRI Makassar and KRI Surabaya... why, coz they are not hospital ship. they are strictly Amphibious Assault Ship. but right now, those LPD's are unarmed...

the hospital ship of indonesia Navy is KRI dr.Suharso (former KRI tanjung Dalpele). this is also LPD... but she's armed with bofors 40mm and 2 canon 20mm...

see pics... with large red cross.. pics taken during TNI's wargame..

[karbol]

another pics of KRI Makassar 590 and KRI Surabaya 591..

[Kopassus]

yes, the enemy can shoot the LPD. especially KRI Makassar and KRI Surabaya... why, coz they are not hospital ship. they are strictly Amphibious Assault Ship. but right now, those LPD's are unarmed...

the hospital ship of indonesia Navy is KRI dr.Suharso (former KRI tanjung Dalpele). this is also LPD... but she's armed with bofors 40mm and 2 canon 20mm...

see pics... with large red cross.. pics taken during TNI's wargame..

Thanks Karbol. Has the name been changed, because it has become a hospitalship?

[aneep]

me neither mate. im cool....to be frank i prefer friendship rather than hostility.


By ggk

pics taken in Indonesia, during a joint exercise with Malaysia

-aneep-

[equilibrium37]

Those ships sure are really big. These LPD's are in urgent need of a sophisticated defense systems... If that doesnt come as a realization, they'd just be a huge defensless slow moving target just waiting to be shot at.

[ggk]

pics taken in Indonesia, during a joint exercise with Malaysia

-aneep-

thanks..i stand corrected

[karbol]

article about Indonesian Kobra SHORAD System... enjoy..

[Kopassus]

Thanks for the good news Karbol.
Oke, its a VSHORAD capable to shoot down very low and slow flying objects from a short range, so in case we are attacked by OPM with Cessna's, we can defend ourselves. But at least we have a replacement for the BAe Rapiers yg kadaluarsa.

[fcaesarn]

Thanks for the good news Karbol.
Oke, its a VSHORAD capable to shoot down very low and slow flying objects from a short range, so in case we are attacked by OPM with Cessna's, we can defend ourselves. But at least we have a replacement for the BAe Rapiers yg kadaluarsa.

@kopassus, what kind of air defense system that most suitable to subtitute rapier for Indonesia right now??

[Kopassus]

Hmm, Rapier is a SHORAD-system, if you want to replace it with another SHORAD, Jernas is a logical choice. Same manufacturer, better capabilities.( JERNAS provides defence against unmanned aerial vehicles, cruise missiles, and fixed and rotary wing aircraft. The Rapier MkII missile is capable of engaging supersonic, low level, high manoeuvrability aircraft, at a maximum range of 8 km.) A better choice is maybe 2S6M Tunguska, longer range, up to 10km.
Even better is Pantsir S1 or Tor M1, ADS which are capable of enganging tactical cruisemissiles like Tomahawk at a range up to 12.000m at an altitude of 6000m(Tor M1) or 8000m(Pantsir S1).

A cheaper alternative is the LD-2000B, also on order by Indonesia.

[Kopassus]

Some news about our LPDs.
August 28, 2008
Launching Kapal Landing Platform Dock TNI AL



PAL INDONESIA Lakukan Launching Kapal Landing Platform Dock, Hull No.W000239


PAL INDONESIA lakukan launching kapal lagi, kali ini yang di launching kapal LPD (Landing Platform Dock) pesanan Dephan. Pemesanan ini sebagai manifestasi implementasi dari Kepres No. 5/2005 untuk mendukung pengembangan Industri Maritime di Indonesia.

Order pembuatan kapal ini berdasarkan Manufacturing dan Purchase Contract Nomor : Sper/05/AA/III/2005 Tanggal 28 Maret 2005, telah ditanda tangani Perjanjian Kontrak Pembangunan 2 Unit Kapal LPD antara PAL INDONESIA dan Daewoo International Corporation.

Kesiapan PAL INDONESIA menerima order ini berdasarkan pengalaman sejak tahun 1980 PAL INDONESIA telah menyelesaikan lebih dari 150 kapal berbagai produk kapal Niaga s/d ukuran 50.000 DWT, Kapal Perang, Kapal Patroli Cepat 14 meter, 28 meter dan Kapal FPB 57 meter dari berbagai versi.

Acara Launching Kapal Landing Paltform Dock pada hari ini , merupakan kapal ke 3 dari 4 kapal pesanan Dephan & Daewoo International Corporation, yang dibuat di PAL INDONESIA. Sedangkan dua Unit kapal lainnya yaitu kapal ke 1 dan ke 2 dibangun di Korsel

Kapal Landing Platform Dock ke 3 dan ke 4 ini dirancang secara khusus untuk mampu dipasang senjata 100mm dan dilengkapi dengan ruang CIC untuk sistem kendali senjata (Fire Control System) yang memungkinkan kapal mampu melaksanakan self defence dengan komunikasi kapalkapal combatan untuk melindungi pendaratan pasukan dan kendaraan taktis serta tempur untuk pengendalian pendaratan helicopter.

Adapun misi kapal LPD adalah untuk Landing Craft Carrier (23 meter Class Landing Craft Unit untuk pendaratan troop/pasukan),operasi ampibi,tank carrier (combat vehicle 22 unit dan tactical vehicle 13 unit, total embarkasi 507 personil ( termasuk troop carrier 354 troop crew,guest dan officer),operasi kemanusiaan dan penanggulangan bencana dan helicopter platform samapai 5 unit.

Berkat dorongan dan kerjasama yang erat dengan Dephan dan TNI AL serta kecintaan Dephan dan TNI akan produksi Dalam Negeri, maka pada hari ini akan kita lewati suatu tahapan yang cukup berarti yakni kembali diperolehnya order 2 unit kapal perang LPD. Semua itu dapat terjadi karena adanya koordinasi yang semakin meningkat antara PAL Indonesia dengan Dephan & TNI –AL.

ADAPUN UKURAN UTAMA KAPAL INI ADALAH :
Length Over All ; 125 Meter
Length Between Perpendicular ; 109,2 Meter
Breath ; 22.00 Meter
Depth (Tank Deck) ; 6.7 Meter
(Truck Deck) ; 11.3 Meter

Draft Max ; 4.9 Meter
Displacement ; 7.300 Ton
Kecepatan Maximum ; 15 Knots
Endurance days ; 30 Days
Cruising Range ; 10.000 Miles
Max embarcation ; 344 Person terdiri dari :
- Crew ; 126 Person
- Troops & Guest ; 218 Person

Helicopter ; 5 Unit
LCVP ; 2 Unit

[Yahoo!]

Have you guys seen the Casa 212 MPA version? Also, there is a report that the Super Pumas were being modified. Note the EOS at the front.

[Tunasa]

Is that Indonesian Super Puma? Camouflage looks different.