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    Quote Originally Posted by bambu runcing View Post
    So, if we do more affordable in buying more smart bomb than smart fighter jet (wich may teach a dumb bomb to be smarter), why should we acquire this damn expensive Flanker instead of thousand smart bomb?

    What is the difference between a Flanker and the venerable oldies F-5 Tiger when both carrying the same smart bomb which can be dropped from 40 k feet?
    Did the smart bomb carried by a Flanker become smarter than his comrades underwing of a Tiger?

    Those guys in TNI AU chose to spend monstrous amount of people money on Flanker because they believe that Flanker can outmanouver the Tiger, and the rest of ASEAN countries Air Forces's backbone. Of course in term of dogfight, not for delivering the smartest or dumbess bomb for god sake...

    TNI AU need the Flanker manouverability on all kind of mission, hi-low altitude, sneaking capability below radar zone, or even destroy secret jungle covered enemy's SAM site in an abyss. If TNI AU only keep their Flanker flying up high shiny unscratched and equipped with the smartest missile, bomb, bullet, and even smart fuel tank; they definitely has choose the wrong fighter jet...

    Anyway busway, this goddamn home made dumb bomb created only for target practice ....

    SELAMAT TAHUN BARU 2009
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    Hmm, afaik our F-5s arent able to be armed with PGM, exept the AGM-65.
    We really need smart weapons like Kh-29 and Kh-31, Malingsia has them also. Singapork has at least 50 GBU-38 JDAM and 30 AGM-154 JSOW on order. And of course how can we defend our airspace with just some AIM-9P2/4 if our neighbours have AIM-120C5/7 and R27(maybe even R77)?

    Selamat Tahun Baru 2009/1430 kepada semua!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopassus View Post
    Hmm, afaik our F-5s arent able to be armed with PGM, exept the AGM-65. And of course how can we defend our airspace with just some AIM-9P2/4 if our neighbours have AIM-120C5/7 and R27(maybe even R77)?
    Suitable weaponry for suitable machine

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    South Korea to Buy 4 CN-235 Maritime Patrol Planes

    30-Dec-2008 13:08 EST




    The Korean Times reports that South Korea is looking to improve its Coast Guard, which currently consists of 15 helicopters and just one patrol plane. To that end, a contract has been signed with Indonesia’s Digiranta for 4 CN-235-100 aircraft, at a cost of about $92 million. The CN-235-110 uses GE’s CT7-9C engines, but lacks features like the pressurized cabins, aerodynamic improvements, and range extensions found on subsequent versions.
    The CN-235 turboprop is a joint venture between EADS-CASA of Spain and Indonesia’s IPTN, and either partner can take orders to produce them. It operates in a light transport role for a number of countries, including South Korea. A maritime patrol version has also been created. It been ordered by Indonesia, Spain, Brunei, Colombia, Ireland, Thailand, Turkey, and the UAE; and a modified version serves as the US Coast Guard’s new HC-144A Ocean Sentry. The CN-235 has a cruising radius of over 1,000 nautical miles, and the MP variant’s systems can detect and track more than 100 targets, up to 200 nautical miles away, in a wide variety of weather conditions.
    Coast Guard missions often include border patrol, and these aircraft will have some value as surveillance platforms. In practice, however, that mission is too dangerous for South Korea’s Coast Guard to execute at sea. South Korea’s navy is tasked with handling incursions from North Korea, and ongoing minor incidents and warning shots have flared into significant naval skirmishes in 1999 and 2002. On the water, South Korea’s Coast Guard is more concerned with activities like illegal fishing by Chinese vessels, who murdered a Coast Guard official in September 2008. South Korea’s Coast Guard also provides a “softer” way of asserting sovereignty over the disputed Liancourt Rocks (Korean: Dokdo/ Japanese: Takeshima).

    link: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-Planes-05222/

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    from todays pics, January 1st, 2009... thx to Vaman..
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    Quote Originally Posted by karbol View Post
    South Korea to Buy 4 CN-235 Maritime Patrol Planes

    30-Dec-2008 13:08 EST




    The Korean Times reports that South Korea is looking to improve its Coast Guard, which currently consists of 15 helicopters and just one patrol plane. To that end, a contract has been signed with Indonesia’s Digiranta for 4 CN-235-100 aircraft, at a cost of about $92 million. The CN-235-110 uses GE’s CT7-9C engines, but lacks features like the pressurized cabins, aerodynamic improvements, and range extensions found on subsequent versions.
    The CN-235 turboprop is a joint venture between EADS-CASA of Spain and Indonesia’s IPTN, and either partner can take orders to produce them. It operates in a light transport role for a number of countries, including South Korea. A maritime patrol version has also been created. It been ordered by Indonesia, Spain, Brunei, Colombia, Ireland, Thailand, Turkey, and the UAE; and a modified version serves as the US Coast Guard’s new HC-144A Ocean Sentry. The CN-235 has a cruising radius of over 1,000 nautical miles, and the MP variant’s systems can detect and track more than 100 targets, up to 200 nautical miles away, in a wide variety of weather conditions.
    Coast Guard missions often include border patrol, and these aircraft will have some value as surveillance platforms. In practice, however, that mission is too dangerous for South Korea’s Coast Guard to execute at sea. South Korea’s navy is tasked with handling incursions from North Korea, and ongoing minor incidents and warning shots have flared into significant naval skirmishes in 1999 and 2002. On the water, South Korea’s Coast Guard is more concerned with activities like illegal fishing by Chinese vessels, who murdered a Coast Guard official in September 2008. South Korea’s Coast Guard also provides a “softer” way of asserting sovereignty over the disputed Liancourt Rocks (Korean: Dokdo/ Japanese: Takeshima).

    link: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...-Planes-05222/
    Thanks for the news, but there's something wrong with this berita. We dont produce anymore the CN235-110. And the CN235-220 has structural reinforcements to cater for higher operating weights, aerodynamic improvements to wing leading-edges and rudder, reduced field length requirements and much-increased range with maximum payload over the -110.
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    From Koran Tempo news, CEO of Dirgantara Budi Santosa said that CN-235 was win over other aircrafts from US, Israel, and even CASA-EADS. CN-235 was not the best in all specs requirement, but can give good combination of performance and price.
    Unfortunately, Koran Tempo didn't elaborate more about others contender's aircraft. I wonder what kind of aircrafts offered by them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambu runcing View Post
    From Koran Tempo news, CEO of Dirgantara Budi Santosa said that CN-235 was win over other aircrafts from US, Israel, and even CASA-EADS. CN-235 was not the best in all specs requirement, but can give good combination of performance and price.
    Unfortunately, Koran Tempo didn't elaborate more about others contender's aircraft. I wonder what kind of aircrafts offered by them?
    Maybe this: P3 Orion, IAI 1124 Westwind, CN235-300MP

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    Default Under water mine effect


    This weapon is Navy R&D product, suitable for defense armament to prevent illegal ship try to infiltrate Indonesia territory.
    This thing different with usual floating surface sea mine. Under water mine located 30-60 meter under water. this mine will activated when detect an object evoke vibration (Frequency), formed by rotating propeller, engine, generator from ship or submarine
    Having 1 ton Weight, this mine able to penetrate ship hull. when target detected, this mine will automatically draw near to the object.

    Technical specification:
    Total weight: 1000 kg
    Length: 1880 mm
    Diameter: 530 mm
    Explosive weight: TNT 700 kg
    Spreading distance: 30-60 m

    Firing device consist of:
    1. Hydrophone as acoustic censor
    2. Induction coil as magnetic censor
    3. Dry battery for power supply
    4. Hydrostatic safety switch: as safety for connection of power supply and arming device mechanism
    5. Activated based on under water pressure of +/- 0,2 ATM

    Thanks to alutsista blogspot

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiraBengis View Post

    A short video about Kopassus's function and capabilities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aghost View Post

    This weapon is Navy R&D product, suitable for defense armament to prevent illegal ship try to infiltrate Indonesia territory.
    This thing different with usual floating surface sea mine. Under water mine located 30-60 meter under water. this mine will activated when detect an object evoke vibration (Frequency), formed by rotating propeller, engine, generator from ship or submarine
    Having 1 ton Weight, this mine able to penetrate ship hull. when target detected, this mine will automatically draw near to the object.

    Technical specification:
    Total weight: 1000 kg
    Length: 1880 mm
    Diameter: 530 mm
    Explosive weight: TNT 700 kg
    Spreading distance: 30-60 m

    Firing device consist of:
    1. Hydrophone as acoustic censor
    2. Induction coil as magnetic censor
    3. Dry battery for power supply
    4. Hydrostatic safety switch: as safety for connection of power supply and arming device mechanism
    5. Activated based on under water pressure of +/- 0,2 ATM

    Thanks to alutsista blogspot
    (Shaking my head)
    This is year of 2009 & they are still in the middle of developing this kind of "old-fashioned cursed" weapon ? What the h*** for ?
    Like land-mines, once been layed & activated, these sea-mines (whether surface or under-water type) won't be able to differentiate between friends or foes, enemies or civilian ships. The under-water type is more-dangerous as it's not seen on surface.
    Clearing out a mine-field water is a slow process, needs money & risky.

    Where is TNI-AL most probably going to deploy them in Indonesia considering the fact that Indonesian fishermen can be found almost everywhere throughout the nation's water ?
    (Keep shaking my head)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bambu runcing View Post
    From Koran Tempo news, CEO of Dirgantara Budi Santosa said that CN-235 was win over other aircrafts from US, Israel, and even CASA-EADS. CN-235 was not the best in all specs requirement, but can give good combination of performance and price.
    Unfortunately, Koran Tempo didn't elaborate more about others contender's aircraft. I wonder what kind of aircrafts offered by them?
    US: Lockheed Martin P-3C Orion
    Israel: IAI provides the Airborne ESM/ELINT system & the airframe can be from anywhere, e.g. IAI/Elta Dassault Falcon 900 MPA
    EADS: could be CN-235MP, AT3 Atlantique, ATR-72MP or modified A319

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    Article in Bahasa Indonesia

    5 Januari 2009

    Sukhoi MK2 Besok Uji Terbang


    http://www.angkasa-online.com/read/n...ok.uji.terbang

    That means today...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopassus View Post
    Article in Bahasa Indonesia

    5 Januari 2009

    Sukhoi MK2 Besok Uji Terbang


    http://www.angkasa-online.com/read/n...ok.uji.terbang

    That means today...
    I thought next topic of the same source says:Uji Terbang Dua Sukhoi Baru TNI AU Sukses?

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    HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!
    Ok i know its a bit late; but better late than never. Havent been checkin in for a while since i was away for most of the winter break. A thousand apologies to GGK for the inconvinient posts; lets keep this thread and forum clean all.

    question about those "brand new" Sukhois:
    Are they really brand new, or just some refubrished and re-equipped used Sukhois?

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