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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchInfantry View Post
    How long is it ago that the Natres has fired a shot at a person?
    The boys in Uruzgan are realy in need of these toys.
    We shoult put the money in extra bushmasters,better MINIMIs and personal equipment.
    And send a few leopards over...
    Defensie is realy in need of money and non-combatunits shoult be happy whit an standaard C7.
    The biggest part of Taskforce uruzgan never leaves the base.
    No need for peppy toys for them.
    Dude we have lost most of our firepower in a few years.
    We shoult be happy if Defensie coult keep it size.
    We need a big war i gues...
    Luckily you are quite right there.
    But it's a bit beside the point when the MoD shouts that they want to modernize all branches.
    Of course the lads in Afg need it the most,and believe me no matter what happens,they get it first anyway. But if you modernize,do it properly then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graspol View Post
    Luckily you are quite right there.
    But it's a bit beside the point when the MoD shouts that they want to modernize all branches.
    Of course the lads in Afg need it the most,and believe me no matter what happens,they get it first anyway. But if you modernize,do it properly then.
    How then?? Selling our last Leopards,PZH,Ships and cenceling the JSF programe?
    Money!!! 16th world economy has no extra money for us..
    PAINF,LMB did there work for years with equipment you woult not trade for your own. 2 damn years i had to wait for the SMP.
    Natres is well equiped enough for the next decade.
    The combat troops are hardly better equipt and you asking for more?
    Why better weapons if you never fire a shot.
    Compare the tasks.....

    sp2c its sad that some people..you know have big ambitions but are not willing to pay. We allways buy the newest the best but we are selling more then we buy. We supose to be one of NATOs best..
    I realy think our units are one of the best.. But at the end we have nothing to fight with. Jeeez selling new equipment we are so good at it.

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    YES!!! Please do cancel that JSF to the Netherlands!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteAce View Post
    YES!!! Please do cancel that JSF to the Netherlands!!!
    LOL and what woult replace our F-16s?
    Im sure it costs a lot of money and we dont get much.
    But it woult be the best there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchInfantry View Post
    LOL and what woult replace our F-16s?
    Im sure it costs a lot of money and we dont get much.
    But it woult be the best there is.
    We could start building Fokker G.I's again

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    Quote Originally Posted by DutchInfantry View Post
    LOL and what woult replace our F-16s?
    Im sure it costs a lot of money and we dont get much.
    But it woult be the best there is.
    I know... it's the best there is unfortunately. But I'm also sure we're gonna regret it in 10 years as well... still without proper alternative...
    SU-35 would be nice, but no option of course... No sleath stuff

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    Re: 'New Stuff'

    Have you kids any idea how much has been invested in Defense over the last 10 years?
    It is o so nice to whine about what others dont need and should be given to you first.

    Did you know Natres personnel is being deployed too, they went to Irak and are now in Afghanistan.

    New stuff costs money, something we always seem to be short of. We can not buy everything at once.
    That is why it takes time to get it to everybody.
    Yes everybody, because I dont think that the 'non-combatant' driver that is part of a convoy to resupply Deh Rawoud is somehow magicaly protected from hostile fire. Every man a rifleman actualy means exactly what is says, everybody must be able to fight when needed.

    Now I might be an old fart and you young guys with oh so much more experiance than my short 22 years in this army but I would nevertheless suggest you start learning to use wat you got rather than whine about what you would like to have (or think that you are entitled to).

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    just because you lived throught WW2 doesn't mean you can talk down on younger people either ... just because people are asking for it doesn't mean they can't make do without it

    we need new stuff, more stuff, better stuff and more better new shiny stuff because the old non shiny stuff is usually old and non shiny and that makes for terrible photo's
    and they tend to break down more often and take longer to fix

    additionally I don't want to change stuff, I want stuff to change ... theres a difference

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    Well said sp2c!!


    Tercio67... I suppose you were born in 67? Well me too... I might not be in the military anymore, but I've been following what's been going on there for over 20 years, so that make's us even graduated on knowledge about the things we say. We do have other opinions-and we are both entitled to that.

    NATRES by the way as you may know, is only on voluntary basis out in A'stan.

    Oh and this: I'm already into politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteAce View Post
    Well said sp2c!!


    Tercio67... I suppose you were born in 67? Well me too... I might not be in the military anymore, but I've been following what's been going on there for over 20 years, so that make's us even graduated on knowledge about the things we say. We do have other opinions-and we are both entitled to that.

    NATRES by the way as you may know, is only on voluntary basis out in A'stan.

    Oh and this: I'm already into politics

    Well said Tercio67 as well!
    I am from that year too,so that makes me graduated as much too eh?
    I was only saying that we would find some new add-ons on our rifles useful,even if we don't get into TIC's every other day.
    It doesn't mean that I think we should get it before other units do.
    I was only talking about a torch and a quick-aim device ffs!
    What never happend doesn't mean it can or will never happen in the near future. Look at what happend at Massarene Barracks in NI !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie the Great View Post
    We could start building Fokker G.I's again
    Maybe we stil have this prototype somewhere in a dusty archive:



    Schelden S.21 whoehoe!

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    Well if you need it bad, you can always buy specific (small) things yourself. The EOTech 520 holosight (or something like that) and a surefire torch are both things you can buy and add on your C8 right? I hear people already buying things for themselves that they think is better than isseud stuff.
    (I know it's not the way it is supposed to be but still...)

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    About more, new and shiny;

    Looking good and tricked out is for airsoft.
    Being able to use, and make do, with what you have is for proffessionals regardless of how it looks.

    There is nothing wrong with wanting something better, however something slightly less new can be just as functional.

    Dont strive to become an ice cream, who without a refridgerator will melt.
    Being a soldier is in your mind, not in your hands.
    Last edited by tercio67; 03-09-2009 at 08:28 AM.

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    I strive to be the refrigerator that keeps my country from melting away

    prefferably the shiny refrigerator from Miele that's real expensive has and icecube makers and a built-in beertender

    nothing wrong with wanting to be the best

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    That's the best metaphors I heard in weeks!

    Stop discusion and start to post some damn photos!

    here my 206 equipped with Panzerfausts: police wont have change to give me a ticket





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