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    Quote Originally Posted by Smok View Post
    But is it serious thinking? Because every few years I hear about replacing Beryl but it is still just a plan without any consequences.
    its like that joke about two sons in law who wanted to get some wodka and to trick their tesciowa started talking about getting some dimond earings for her, once mother was all out of alcohol they decided to just pierce the ears this year

    come on Remov, spill the beans give us something

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    Medevacs "Ryś" in Sharana
    Author and photos: Mariusz Konarski
    2007-07-11

    Euro-Asian lynx, "ryś" in Polish. Also a name of a Polish medevac vehicle.

    Since April four armoured vehicles of medical evacuation "Ryś" (****ounce:rish) have been used by medical service of Polish Battle Group (PBG). Two of them are in Sharana base and two in Ghazni. They have been bought recently by ministry of defence. One has shown its usefulness last year in Iraq.

    - The vehicles have already participated in medical support in some actions - says Mjr. Marek Piekarski, a senior doctor of PBG, Sharana. - We have been supporting our sappers during demining tasks, and we have also used them for transport of water and food to flooded villages, when supporting humanitarian CIMIC actions. "Ryś" was used over there as a remote medical post for local villages.

    -It has enough room for the patients and it is air conditioned, which is a plus. - says Piekarski.
    - However, it is quite noisy while moving and it has sharp edges near its peryscopes. We can provide a basic medical help in "Ryś", since it is equipped with oxygen installation, it has a place for a defilibrator, and it has dressing and medicine chest for a broad group of injured patients. Compared to an American ambulance, based on HMMWV, our vehicle offers much greater comfort.

    I joined the "Ryś" team and we went outside the base in a convoy of other vehicles. Driving in Afghanistan is a kind of great art. Roads are sandy and weakly compacted. Great clouds of dust build up when driving somewhat faster. But the vehicle moves efficiently and easily handles the slopes. I had no problems communicating via intercom with the driver and the commander. However, after our task was done, on the way back the air-conditioning broke. And the ride with the flak jacket and the headset on, in 40 degrees Celsius and dust everywhere - with no way to open the door or the upper hatch - was quite a survival lesson.

    Lance corporal Krzysztof Gross from Warsaw has been a commander of one of "Ryś" vehicles since they have been delivered to Sharana. He previosly served as a driver on missions to Liban and Iraq.
    - After several trips outside the base - says he - I may say that this vehicle is functionally satisfactory, although, if I may add, it could be better armoured at the bottom. In Afghani conditions the water propellers are obviously redundant but the automatic transmission would be useful here. Its all-axes drive has been a good idea - the vehicle does not sink in sand.

    Two representatives of manufacturer, Military Motorization Institute of Poznan (WZM), have been servicing the vehicles and collecting notes and user comments and opinions. We hope that the latter will be used by WZM to improve the "Ryś", so that our armed forces will end up with good medevac vehicles.
    source in Polish: http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazet...5993&Itemid=29
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    Swiss Tank Challenge

    Last week, July 2 - 7, the international tank championship, "Swiss Tank Challenge", took place in Thun, Switzerland. Tank crews from Switzerland and other European countries met at the Mechanical Training Center of Swiss Army to determine the best ones among them. Aside from the host country Switzerland, the following countries were invited: Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden and Spain - all those European countries whose armies use the battle tank Leopard 2.

    The crews competed on Swiss Army simulators. The goal of the challenge was to acquire the targets in the shortest possible time and destroy them with the least amount of ammunition. Variety of conditions were simulated, including shooting from a driving tank. The task demanded perfect communication between the tank commander and its crew: the aimer and the loader.

    The challenge was run in categories:
    1. Swiss crews only
    2. Foreign crews only
    3. Swiss and foreign crews

    The winner of the category 2 was Sweden, while Poland won category 3.

    The crowning conclusion of the Challenge was an annual Steel Parade, on Saturday, July 7, 2007. On display were numerous vehicles, which played or still play a role in historical motorization of Swiss Army. The parade was opened by few former cyclists from Swiss Cyclist Company, followed by a squadron of Swiss Cavalry.


    Several former cyclists from the historical Swiss cyclist company open the Thun parade

    One of the first Swiss Army tanks, of type Praga

    Shooting Leopard 2
    source: http://www.he.admin.ch/internet/heer...challenge.html


    The Swedes have been already celebrating in another thread on MP.net. Now let us see, what Poles could boast about.

    Poles the best
    Crews of tanks Leopard 2 met at the annual championship in Thun, Switzerland, on July 5-7, 2007. The crew from the 10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade has affirmed its masterly class. After their success two years ago, when the tankers from Świętoszów came home with the gold and silver medals, they have proven this year that they definitely belong to the leaders of the prestigeous "Leopard Club".

    In the most counting category (two best crews from each country) two Polish crews have been qualified on the first and third positions after the qualification round. The crew of Tomasz Potęga (plut. Tomasz Potęga, plut. Ryszard Woźniak and pfc. Daniel Delost) met with Norwegians in semi-finals which they won after a passionate fight. In the finals they met a German crew, who had won their semi-finals with Austrians. The grand final was won by the Poles, with significant points difference: 293:253. The Świętoszów tankers have shown once again that they are professionals in their calling.
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    Polish winners of Swiss Tank Challenge, category 3
    ppłk Dariusz Nawrocki.
    Wydział Prasowy
    source: http://www.army.mil.pl/7_07/120707_leo/120707_leo.html
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    Last edited by Mishka Zubov; 07-12-2007 at 09:15 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by REMOV View Post
    In fact, Polish Army is thinking about replacing 5,56-mm kbk wz.96 Beryl assault rifle as well as 5,56-mm subkbk wz.96 Mini Beryl carbine with a new, 5,56-mm NATO modular weapon system. I can say that this new system has already a military designate, quite a nice one
    I guess the whole family will be called "Solidary Country"

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    Poles vs Germans in the final of tank challenge.
    What a "classic" fight

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    IIIIIIIII-HAW
    We did it AGAIN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishka Zubov View Post
    Swiss Tank Challenge

    Last week, July 2 - 7, the international tank championship, "Swiss Tank Challenge", took place in Thun, Switzerland. Tank crews from Switzerland and other European countries met at the Mechanical Training Center of Swiss Army to determine the best ones among them. Aside from the host country Switzerland, the following countries were invited: Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden and Spain - all those European countries whose armies use the battle tank Leopard 2.

    The crews competed on Swiss Army simulators. The goal of the challenge was to acquire the targets in the shortest possible time and destroy them with the least amount of ammunition. Variety of conditions were simulated, including shooting from a driving tank. The task demanded perfect communication between the tank commander and its crew: the aimer and the loader.

    The challenge was run in categories:
    1. Swiss crews only
    2. Foreign crews only
    3. Swiss and foreign crews

    The winner of the category 2 was Sweden, while Poland won category 3.

    The crowning conclusion of the Challenge was an annual Steel Parade, on Saturday, July 7, 2007. On display were numerous vehicles, which played or still play a role in historical motorization of Swiss Army. The parade was opened by few former cyclists from Swiss Cyclist Company, followed by a squadron of Swiss Cavalry.





    One of the first Swiss Army tanks, of type Praga
    it´s not Praga but ČKD (Českomoravská Kolben-Daněk) Lehký tank Lt-38 (light tank Lt-38)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumcajs View Post
    it´s not Praga but ČKD (Českomoravská Kolben-Daněk) Lehký tank Lt-38 (light tank Lt-38)
    Thanks!

    But don't kill the messenger: I just grabbed the word "Praga" from Swiss/Austrian/German articles - translated by Google to incredulous Engrish.
    I cited one source, check it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishka Zubov View Post
    Thanks!

    But don't kill the messenger: I just grabbed the word "Praga" from Swiss/Austrian/German articles - translated by Google to incredulous Engrish.
    I cited one source, check it yourself.
    I know for them Praga,Tatra, Škoda, ČKD, or Bumar, PZL or for example Slovak ZTS is the same) whital almost all these companies are much more older then a lot of western weapon producers

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    Default Dangers of Afghanistan

    Dangers of Afghanistan
    Wojciech Majeran
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    There are about 27 millions of people living in Afghanistan. Statistically, there is one mine per each one.

    Mines were used by Russians and by mujahedin. Their aim was to weaken morale of partizans fighting in mountains, as well as to stop military convoys with supplies and soldiers. According to experts, more than one hundred years is needed to clean Afghanistan up. Currently, the old remaining arsenal of mines is used by Taliban and Al-Qaida.

    The main ingredient of IEDs in Afghanistan are all kinds of mines: small anti-personal and large anti-tank mines. Until recently this kind of war was unknown to people from around Hindukush. Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) came here with terrorists from Iraq. As stressed by the experts, each year there is more death carrying traps in Afghanistan.

    However, their construction is differenet from those in Iraq. Afghan mine explodes either under pressure of a vehicle wheel or track, or by breaking off a staywire that holds its pin on. In Iraq most of the charges are blasted off by radio waves. Here in Sharana, this method is being thwarted by the radio interference system "DUKE", which has been installed in every vehicle that goes outside the base.

    Each day the Afghan police post in Sharana receives dozen or so tips about IDEs found. From there the requests are sent to Polish Battle Group (PBG) via a small Polish-run outpost (10 Poles, 2 Americans, some ANA soldiers and AP police), the Provincial Coordination Center. The operation center decides on priorities. The highest priority is attached to places with the highest threat - both to soldiers and to locals.

    Polish sappers from PBG have already become familiar with Afghanistan and its characteristic dangers. Most of them have participated in the operation Enduring Freedom in Bagram base.

    This time the sappers will be defusing the IDE at night. The IDE has been localized at road leading to the only hospital in the neighborhood. Each day few hundred people walk by and hundreds of cars drive by over there. The threat is great so the sappers do not wait till the morning. A five-person team, commanded by Sgtfc. Damian Sierpiński needs only few minutes to go out the base. With them goes a quick reaction group to protect them during their work.


    It takes dozen or so minutes to get from Sharana to the location of IDE. Local policemen are helping with it. They have been here securing the terrain until now. The Polish security boys take their positions and the experts begin to work.



    "We'll begin with checking the terrain" - says Sgtfc. Sierpiński. In few minutes all necessary equipment is taken of the Hummer's trunk. Damian - slowly and in full concentration - uses a Schiebel's metal detector. Few minutes later he is near the object. Now, in the headlight of a Hummer it is seen that the mine is sorrounded by stones, laid there by the policemen.


    "We need to prepare a small basket" - he tells pfc. Krzysiek Ubowski. Krzysiek bends a bit and gets a small frame from a pile. "Make it flat" - prompts Damian. The mine is shallowly digged into the sand.


    They work as one pair only because of the safety precautions. They trust each other. Krzysiek takes two TNT cubes, 400 gram each. "This should be enough" - they add in accord. Now they arm the fuse and unwind the ignition cable. Everyone moves back to a safe distance. We have to be careful not drive our Hummers over the cable. "We have never done it in darkness" - says Damian.


    Everything goes a bit slow, because it's so easy to make a mistake in the dark. They turn the ignition on. A voice from the speakers: "Thirty seconds to the explosion." Two, one. A darkness becomes dispersed by a flash and a silence by a thunder. Eight hundred grams of TNT have done a job. They only have to check whether everything has been detonated.


    The sappers approach carefully. Damian kneels, checks with a knife. "Everyone back!" - he shouts and points to electrical cable sticking up. There must be something beneath. One more mine. "I need an extractor." Slowly and carefully he checks every centimeter. Schibel begins squeaking. Damian gently extracts about 10 cm of cable. Luckily - this is just a cable. The terrain is safe.


    After a while come Afghan police officers. They thank us for removing the mine. They also have their success here. The patrol of Sgtfc. Damiana Sierpiński has luckily returned to the base. In meantime their friends run over an IED. "This could be our vehicle" - says Damian. "Sometimes when bringing help we might need it ourselves." - he adds.
    source: http://www.isaf.wp.mil.pl/aktualnosc_91.html
    translated by MZ

    My comment: The last paragraph seems like a "licentia poetica". The unlucky patrol of Polish sappers hit the mine at the evening when returning to base.
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    Default Polish Sappers, Bagram 2005

    Polish Sappers, Bagram 2005

    I somehow feel that sappers, not only the Polish ones, are somehow under-appreciated. So here is one of several stories with pictures that I have found on the net.

    But first, see one of the historical threads in our own forum.
    "Due to posting #2000, I will not forget Poland.", MP.net thread, 2004-10-19, http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=24654

    Fields of Fire
    Story and photos by Army Sgt. Matthew MacRoberts
    20th Public Affairs Affairs Detachment
    September 19, 2005

    BAGRAM AIRFIELD, Afghanistan
    While many service members slept, a team of Polish sappers readied their gear Aug. 24 and set out for a field near tower one to destroy one of the mines they had uncovered during the previous days work. During the past month, while working in the field across the street from the bazaar parking lot, the soldiers have found and destroyed more than 46 explosive devices; two TM62M anti-tank mines, two YM-1 anti-personnel mines, seven other various mines, 20 mortars, and 15 rocket propelled grenades.


    "It is not often that I find a mine, it's mostly a piece of metal," said Polish army Sgt. Piotr Slabon, one of the sappers who recently found a YM-1 anti-personnel mine. "You don't know if it's a mine or not. (The YM-1) is a very small mine, but it's very dangerous because it has very little metal in it making it very hard to detect.

    Their work day starts at 4:30 a.m. and finishes midday because of the heat. After destroying the mine, the sappers put together their metal detectors and started their 30-minute shifts to look for more ordnance. In the middle of the field, there are two underground bunkers, which presented a serious threat to the Polish soldiers. Going into them and probing for mines and other explosives held a high risk factor prompting them to call the Air Force's explosive ordinance disposal office on Bagram Airfield.


    U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Joshua Mal and Master Sgt. Jon Ford arrived in the morning with a Packbot, a remote controlled EOD robot that would be used to scout the inside of the bunkers for mines and ****y traps. While searching the second bunker, the soldiers and Airmen on site visually identified two Type 72 anti-personnel mines, a RPG, a grenade and a recoilless rifle shell. These munitions were in sight of the ladders leading into the bunker.


    The sappers, EOD and mine action team members decided to leave the bunkers alone for now and have the Polish focus on clearing the land around the bunkers. While searching for mines the sappers have to probe by hand any objects their metal detectors find.

    "It is very exciting to find a mine," said Slabon. "You get a lot of adrenaline when you find one. Sappers are only allowed one mistake." Polish army Sgt. Krzysztof Mariarz, another sapper that found a mine said, "I'm not so nervous while looking for mines." He explained that it is a very methodical and planned process that he keeps him safe. "But, when I find a mine I have to stop and ask myself if there could be a second mine nearby, one hidden by a stronger signal of the first mine."

    During an average day, the Polish sappers clear more than 100-square meters of ground using metal detectors and probing techniques. They have been working in the general area of tower one for five months now.

    "It's very difficult work to find mines here," said Slabon. "Normally mines are laid in a pattern. Here they are scattered in no particular order." Slabon said, with a hint of pride, no Polish sappers have been injured while clearing fields here.

    About working as a sapper here, Maziarz said, "I like the adventure, but mines have
    killed a lot of people - especially small children. I wanted to help clear the soil to make
    it safe."
    source: Afghanistan Freedom, http://www.25idl.army.mil/freedomwat...19,%202005.pdf

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    And one more story, this time from the year 2006.

    Polish troops lead the way in demining Bagram base
    By Anita Powell, Stars and Stripes
    Mideast edition, Sunday, February 19, 2006

    BAGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan — Before officials expand this base to roughly twice its current size, they’ll have to manually evict countless longtime tenants.

    Local officials estimate it will take between three and five years to clear all of Bagram Air Base, a former Soviet base, of Soviet-sown anti-personnel mines, Afghan-laid anti-tank mines and anti-personnel mines and countless ammunition rounds, small bombs, grenades and shrapnel.

    The task illustrates one of the many obstacles facing Afghanistan: The nation is the second-most mined country in the world, with anywhere from 5 million to as many as 20 million mines scattered in its rugged terrain. Much of the ordnance is found in and around former Soviet bases — like Bagram — and at former Northern Alliance and Taliban strongholds.
    “This is a pretty big mess right now,” said Marine Gunnery Sgt. Mike Messina, who helps lead the Mine Action Center, which coordinates demining activities for U.S. and coalition bases around Afghanistan. “There is a huge demining effort in Afghanistan right now.”

    At Bagram, some of the most detailed and difficult demining work is handled by the Polish army, which has a company-sized presence on base. The sappers of the 1st Engineering Brigade of Brzeg, Poland, take to the base’s fields daily, spending hours kneeling in the earth, tentatively poking around with metal detectors and spades.


    Red flags mark areas on Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, where members of a Polish demining team search for mines and old ordnance used as bombs. As many as 20 million mines are scattered across the country.
    The work is “a long-term process,” said Polish army Maj. Piotr Grzegorzewski. “It can be really boring.” That said, sappers say the extreme danger of the job is constantly in the back of their minds. “Only the crazy don’t get scared,” Warrant Officer 1 Mariusz Mazur said as he watched a kneeling colleague slowly turn dirt with a spade, as if preparing to plant a petunia.


    A member of a Polish demining team at an area of Bagram Air Base, Afghanistan, looks for mines and old ordnance used as bombs.
    A dinner-table-sized plot of land might take 10 hours to demine, said Messina, adding that lacing the same area with mines could take as few as 15 minutes. “The Polish are very good manual deminers,” Messina said. “Any project we have that’s very difficult and terrain-intensive, we put them on.”

    The center also uses civilian deminers and members of the 391st Engineering Battalion, an Army Reserve unit based in South Carolina, to conduct demining activities on the air base. Demining machinery and dogs are also used to clear areas.
    “Every day they’re working, they’re finding something,” said Australian army Maj. Darren Morgan, officer in charge of the Mine Action Center.

    Over the last four months, the sappers have found 12 anti-personnel mines, many of them Israeli-made box mines, in a small area on the base. Almost every search yields munitions, and deminers conduct two or three controlled detonations daily.
    Even after the areas are considered clear, officials say, a few stubborn tenants will remain.
    “There’ll always be something left out there,” Morgan said.
    source: Stars and Stripes, http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?...9&archive=true

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    MZ--> Thanx for yours impressive contribution to this tread!

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    Misha, keep on doing the excellent job

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    Default Artillery practice of professional privates

    Thanks to those of you with nice supportive thoughts
    The article that follows has been directly requested by Jocker_89:

    Artillery practice of professional privates
    Author: Warrant Officer 2nd. Class Zbigniew Płaczkiewicz
    Date: 2007-07-13

    Participants of a non-commissioned course for professional privates at Army Noncom School in Toruń took their fire exam, at Toruń military training grounds, on July 12. The future commanders of anti-tank missile launchers 9 P133 (PPK) and self-propelled howitzers 2S-1 „Goździk” were demonstrating their skills.

    Thanks to the long lasting rains this month there is no threat of forest fires and hence the Warrant Officer 1st Class Wojciech Bućko may plan - without apprehension - today's target practice with live ammunition at the nearby training grounds. All soldiers still remember the dry and hot June, when - because the highest level of fire alert - there were no target practices. "Soldier's life is sometimes strange; rain clouds above, no sun in site in the past dozen of days, but we are all very glad - which could not be said about our collegues on their vacations. We can shoot at last!" - said Officer 1st Class Wojciech Bućko.



    But before the first shot get fired the anti-tankers and howitzer-men had to prepare their equipment under supervision of their instructors: Sgt. Dariusz Zakrzewski (PPK) and Sgt. Wojciech Sowa (2S-1). After that they had to choose their firing-posts and sketch the lines of fire for every firing weapon.



    The target practice has been prepared on two axes in the same direction under the intent observation of the fire controllers: Warrant Officer 1st Class Wojciech Bućko (self-propelled howitzer 2S-1 „Goździk”) and Warrant Officer 2nd Class Zbigniew Płaczkiewicz (anti-tank missile launchers 9 P133). The task of future artillery commanders was a direct shooting to stationary targets.


    The anti-tankers began first. "Launcher one, marker 3 - left 30, a tank. Destroy!" - commands Warrant Officer 2nd Class Grzegorza Wessel, a PPK platoon commander, at the fire control post. Less than a minute later the commander of the first launcher, Pfc. Dariusz Wandas, reports: "Target destroyed, one shell used!" A satisfaction is painted all over the faces of the shooting crew - and this kind of reports will be heard to the end of their target practice. The anti-tankers have receved the "A" mark.





    After a while, the howitzer crew joined the anti-tankers on the nearby fire axis. Again and again shots have been fired from the self-propelled howitzers, caliber 122 mm. The charges of Sgt. Wojciech Sowa (2S-1) have been also happy with their results. (.. details elided - MZ). The've got the mark "A minus" - they have only missed few hundres of a point to get the full "A" mark.








    A next target practice will be next week, July the 19th - a chance to prove that the currently received marks have not been just incidental.
    source: http://www.wojsko-polskie.pl/wortal/...,,id,9992.html
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