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Poland - Świdwin. Day 21 Air Bases.
And another setof pics from the same source...
Polish Army 12th Mechanised Infantry Brigade snipers prepering themselves for the upcoming XII shift of Polish Armed Forces Contingent in Afganistan passed their two months long predeployment trainingm last field exercise . On the artillery training ground near Toruń they were improving their camuflage, infiltration, observation and marksman skills.
The training was conducted by the instructors from the Sniper Training Departament of the Polish Army Artillery and Weapons Training Center, stationed in Toruń.
Pics taken by CAPT. Marek Serocki, CPL. Maciej Hering.
SOURCE: ZOOM - Z Obiektywem Obok Munduru
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Poland - Świdwin. Day 21 Air Bases.
Dunno if you guys have an own news thread, so I just leave this here:
Article continued @ FlightglobalPoland orders five more C295 transports
By: Bartosz Glowacki Warsaw
Poland is to increase its air force fleet of Airbus Military C295 medium transports to 16 aircraft, under a new five-unit deal worth 876 million zlotys ($262 million).
"Deliveries will start at the end of this year and continue into 2013," says Airbus Military, which signed the contract on 2 July. "The aircraft will be used to support the Polish air force in its national and international operations."
Polish sources say the first two aircraft will be delivered this year.
Repost of the picture with the broken link and three more pics from the same event. All of them from the Polish Army website (you can find there pics from this training I've posted before in a little bit higher res.)
And another set o pics - exercise "WARGACZ 12" ("SLOTH BEAR" 12).
"WARGACZ 12" was an exercise of the Polish Navy 8th Flotilla conducted in May, 2012. One of the exercise's episode was training of the troops, vehicles and equipment delivery from ships to the beach and in opposite direction. The operation was conducted and suppoorted by the 8th Flotilla elements - 8th engineering battalion, 8th AA artillery battallion and Flotilla's NBC coy. Transported troops were soldiers from Polish Army 17 Mechanised Infantry Brigade - the Brigade's elements, which are to take part in the Waimars Battle Group and their vehicles - BRDM-2 from recon platon and infantry coys APC "Rosomak".
Pics by Mirek Heberlej/8FOW.
Source ZOOM - Z Obiektywem Obok Munduru
Intresting is that Polish Armed Forces doesn't have any specialised marines unit - during Cold War era we used to have them in the Army (Land Forces) - 7th Coastal Defense Brigade. In spite of the "defensive" name it was the unit train to conduct offensive ops and beach seizure etc. In the middle of the last Century 90-ties this brigade was disbanded. Polish Navy landing craft was redesignated as "mines and transport ships" and their mission was changed just to transport the troops (to the prepared beach; no beach seizing) and mines placing and removing. Official reason for this decision was that when the Watrsaw Pact collapsed we didn't want to be recognised as an offensive country in the Baltic Sea area... Nowadays the tradition (and name) of the "Cold War era" Polish Marines are continued by the soldiers of the Polish Army 7th Coastal Defense Brigade stationed in Słupsk; one of the the garrisons, which used to be occupied by some elements of the old 7th Bgde. Don't let the name of the unit fool you - even if the name is the same this is completly different brigade, created on the base of the elements of the disbanded 8th Division. In fact it's just Mechanised Infantry Brigade, even if the soldiers wear blue berets and the badge with anchor (symbols of the Cold War era 7th Brigade). They don't have any specialised equipemnt or vehicles, just the regular staff of the Polish Army (BMP-1 in the infantry coys, BRDM-2 for the recon elements etc). They conduct landing from the Polish Navy "mines and transport ships" from time to time, but they are not trained in this kind of mission as the whole unit. Few years ago there were some rumors, that the Navy has plan to rise the battalion size "regular" marines unit, but looks like there are this plan is not going to be executed...
Good posts as always, madmike.
Thanks for posting.
Because we don't need Marines unit. After creating unit like that we would have to by ships for them. Should I remind you how many battle ships our Navy have nowdays?For battle missions in other countries we have air assault units.
Perhaps. Still, if you look at the role alliend nations have played over the years, a marinetime expedition capability or very much sought-after nowadays.
Even a limited capability is better than none. Look at the Duch Marines: the're not numerous, but their contribution is significant.
Right now the 1st. Mechanised Brigades' Commander is focused on two things: growth and advancement. Time will tell how the idea evolves.
Last edited by Ravage; 07-03-2012 at 12:38 PM.
We don't have to. We just need to rename them again - from "mine and transport ship" to "landing ship". Almost for free.Originally Posted by peter.pl
Don't worry, I do know something about them. Do you know that the "Lublin" - class "mine and transport ships" are one of the youngest in our in-crisis state-Navy?Should I remind you how many battle ships our Navy have nowdays?
That's OK, cause our airborne troops transportation capability are much better than marines transportation capability...For battle missions in other countries we have air assault units.
We have 5 "Lublin" class ships. Everyone of them is capable to transport and deploy equivalent of the infantry coy. And "Lublins" are not the only ships of the Polish Navy, which used to be called "landing ships" once. Compare this facts with our capability to transport our 5 airborne (6th and 15 Bgdes) batts.
Plus there's the 'same old same old' mantra of 3/4 of the planet is reachable by sea...In many cases we don't even need to use our own ships - in joint operations we can (and have) relly on allied vessels. MadMike put it right: we're probably more capable of a maritime insertion than an air drop/air assault - given the current status of our air power....
Monday July 2, 2012; Commander of the French Gendarmerie Nationale GEN. Jacques Mignaux visited Polish Armed Forces Military Police HQ in Warsaw.
Part of his visit was demonstartion of the Pilosh Armed Forces Military Police capabilities and equipment.
I'm not sure if the K9 element is part of OSŻW Warszawa (Special Unit of the Miltary Police "Warsaw") as well, but they took part in another episode of the demo anyway.
Special Unit of the Miltary Police "Warsaw" took part in the demonstration as well. They were supported by Polish Police helo.
On the few pics you can find Polish Police officer; according to the article attached to gallery he is member of BOA - Polish Police elite CT unit.
Source: Polish Armed Forces MP website
Yea, but Lublin class are cold war era style ships made just to reach Denmark. You can't travel ocean on that ship, you don't have living conditions for troops on long cruises, it's too slow to be part of groups made of modern ships, can't provide any air support which is basic in marine operations nowdays, can't fight anything bigger than Somali pirate raft etc. etc.
I do agree with you, but if these ships were good for the Baltic Sea once, they still can be used in that kind of enviroment. At least we have something we can get starting with.
ORP "X. Czernicki" used to have some troops carrying capabilities as well; that ship is much more suitable in more demanding conditions. Even if it's not landing ship and unfortunetly (fortunetly?) was recently rebuilt to command ship of NATO counter-mine Task Force.
Polish Navy is about to change - it will be modernisated or will... disappear. If our Navy would be reinforced with some projects, maybe some of our decision makers would find the idea of creating ships capable to deploy landing ground force element intresting?
Marines from the countries, which land forces (in all branch of their Armed Forces) are comparable to ours, like British or Dutch, has been proving their skills in every conflicts their Armed Forces has been taking part in since II WW. I do belive Poland can use help of that kind of unit as well. Even if present day hiers of famus Polish "blue berets" from Cold War era are just the mechanised infantry, focused on coast defence, unlike their predecessors...
May 10, 2012; Polish Army soldiers from 18th Reconaissance Regiment, stationed in Białystok, demonstrated their skills and equipment.
Source: Informator Białostocki
June 2012; Polish Army 9th Reconaissance Regiment conducted field exercise on the Training Ground in Drawsko Pomorskie.
Pics taken by WO Robert Duszeńko
Source:Polish Army website
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