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General Pawel Lamla - Polish secret weapon
Could anyone post some meaningful photos of Poles in Iraq, possibly with some comments? All I can see in the archives of "Redakcja Wojskowa" are variations on one single theme: General Lamla pinning medals, shaking hands and saluting. He must be tired of all that hard work.
This is not right, I am pissed off. I am sure ordinary soldiers perform their duties well, and General Różański, the commander of the Brigade Battle Group from Al Kut has been leading them well. But where are their pictures, where are their stories? The reports from Iraq seem extremely uninformative and biased as well. After all, the Multinational Division Centrum South is made of several nationalities. Where are their pictures and stories, aside from the "Mongolian soldier" story, which re-surfaced again recently?
All I could find about Diwaniya and Al Kut comes from some external sources. For example, a touching story of an Armenian soldier, who lost his leg while on patrol with Poles in Al Kut, http://yandunts.blogspot.com/2007/04...d-in-iraq.html.
Or an information about a contingent of 2000 Georgian soldiers who are about to take over the command of Wasit Province (base Al Kut) from Poles, http://news.sawf.org/Lifestyle/38713.aspx. "Redakcja Wojskowa" does not mention this at all, aside from providing a short information about "Poles from Al Kut to be relocated to Camp Echo to join the other Poles stationing there". And yes, there is yet another gallery of pictures of general Lamla saying goodbye to commanders of Kazach and El Salvadorean contingents, which - I believe - will work with Georgians from now on.
General Lamla seems to be complaining a lot about security deterioration and about poor performance of police forces in MDCS area of responsibility. But should not he take part of the blame on himself? There is a blog run by a fellow Latvian, who strongly thinks so, http://therearguard.blogspot.com/. Warning: this is quite a bitter pill to swallow.
Last edited by Mishka Zubov; 06-19-2007 at 08:45 AM. Reason: spelling "off"
Search this forum. You will find thousands of photos with Poles in Iraq.
@Smok
I meant: current Polish/Iraq pictures posted to this thread, not the old ones or not the photos posted in other threads. Isn't this thread a kind of mega-thread for everything Polish? Unless I missed something, there is very little here Iraq/Polish oriented from the last two month. I thought you guys have access to some resources that are not accessible to me.
@ Mishka Zubov, Nobody cares about Iraq now. Poles started thier service in Afghanistan. All eyes are watching there now.
all eyes? true. but somehow i can find just few photos a week. sad that polish media are not interested in sending correspondents there.Originally Posted by Switek
How the news are reported from Iraq and Afghanistan
To underline my point again:
Breaking news from Iraq, June 19, 2007, "Redakcja Wojskowa": an article about "Cavarly Holliday" with six pictures.
General Lamla appears in four of them with: (1) a handshake, (2) a salute, (3) a speech and (4) a hero pose.
The article concludes: "After short celebration the soldiers went back to their duties. Some spent their holliday patrolling streets of Diwaniya." But the reporter/photographer did not go out with them. Why bother! OK, I understand, that photographer is the Lamla's court photographer, the "embedded" one. But he sucks big time! There are no meaningful news from Iraq, as I said before.
OK, I understand what Switek is saying about all eyes switched on Afghanistan now. Not that I think that this is good for the image. But let us examine the news from Afghanistan:
1. Embedded reporting.
Actually, not bad, in my opinion. Some articles may qualify as interesting, or at least as informative.
2. Independent reporting: Rzeczpospolita, Gazeta, Dziennik
Actually some articles are not bad - compared to Canadian press. At least they go out from their hotels and interview ordinary Afghans. I already translated one such article for this forum. That was from Gazeta, but Rzeczpospolita had few good ones as well. But, for many reasons, not all reports would qualify for translation for this forum.
Some are full of defeatism. Just take a look at the Dziennik's headlines:
"Polaków czeka koszmarnie trudne zadanie", "Afganistan gorszy niż Irak", "Wchodzimy do piekła". Yes, Sherlock, we all know it!
Some are actually funny in their naivete. Case in question: "Afganistan - wojna psychologiczna", http://www.dziennik.pl/Default.aspx?...rticleId=48886
Actually, I commented on that one on their forum.
What is missing? Photos! Photo-journalism.
Last edited by Mishka Zubov; 06-19-2007 at 08:50 AM. Reason: missing word
You're right and answered yourself:
Why is that? Couse most of the time our troops spend inside base. During fighting missions outside, nobody will be so irresponsible to take a civilian photographer with them.
You are not talking about military photographers, are you? Because if someone signs his article as Lieutenant Colonel he is probably qualified to go out with troops on patrol. And there are also the boys from our propaganda group - whatever its name.
If you are talking about independent reporting then hmm.. I saw an interview with BBC journalist who spent some time embedded with British troops. [Funny: Polish reporter interviewing the British one - that's what I call the first hand reporting.] I also saw a very long video of Canadian troops on patrol.[This one was posted on this forum as well]
I am not even talking about zillions of pictures - censored or otherwise - taken by coalition soldiers. Not that I have any right to demand this kind of news from Polish soldiers. But the other types - why not?
Last edited by Mishka Zubov; 06-19-2007 at 11:09 AM. Reason: wrong wording: was "embedded" corrected: military
Americans with beryls
Since I do not want to screw anything while posting my first pictures here (hotlinks issues, hosting, etc.) I am just providing you with URL and description of several interesting pictures - letting you to decide what and how to display it.
This is a personal/military blog of an American soldier serving somewhere in Poland in some hard-to-guess mission. Training? Mutual military exercises?
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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05...-with-aks.html
We "borrowed" some AK from the Polish Troops
All I got to say is..I could get use to carrying one or having one in my car or house....
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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05/bonding-time.html
After all days of training it was time to do some bonding with the Polish Forces.
Of course there were a lot of talk about my last name. I talked to them for some time about the situation in Poland, and they were pretty surprised about my awarness of politics and overall situation in PL. Its good to keep up with that stuff, at least you have something to talk about.
BTW> these guys are HIGH SPEED, LOW DRAG, TEFLON COATED INDIVIDUALS, I am glad they are on our side. Also these are all volunteers for Iraq...
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http://badjujuu.blogspot.com/2007/05/opfor.html
These are the funniest ****ers I ever had. They crack me up with all kinds of qoutes and jokes.
They were designated to be the OPFOR for this rotation, and so far they are doing an excellent job. I like talking to them in our free time, about anything, women, cars, drinking, etc. I think if we were in one army we would make a great squad. Sometimes you just meet different people from different parts of the world that you just click with.
really great find! :ok:
I more interensting post from the blog:
SSG Belmot decided to look Hollywood with the Polish gun truck, so I took a picture of him posing like that. Polish soldiers think their equipment is ****ty, but from what I see, it is more reliable that some of the equipment I worked with is US. Weird
50th Anniversary of "Red Berets" (Air Assault)
they look like Ruskies, making such stupidities in that show off...
oh come on. they are assault unit and they have to act aggressively... after all it`s only show for some VIP`s
Switek I have already posted your photos
http://militaryphotos.net/forums/sho...=76583&page=42
SSG Belmot decided to look Hollywood with the Polish gun truck, so I took a picture of him posing like that. Polish soldiers think their equipment is ****ty, but from what I see, it is more reliable that some of the equipment I worked with is US. Weird
all soldiers complain about their equipment, its a universal expectation
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