Polish F-16C/D block 52M+

[flanker7]

And if I remember correctly, some of their maintenance(of the polish F-16s) will be done in Greece by HAI. If I remember correctly that is....

[flanker7]

Do the Block 50s and Block 52s have the same engine? I've read that the 50s use a GE engine while the 52s use a P&W.

Is that true?

True, true!

[corran.pl]

Do the Block 50s and Block 52s have the same engine? I've read that the 50s use a GE while the 52s use a P&W.

Is that true?

Yes it is, same rule aplays to block 30/32 and 40/42.

You might find interesting that only block 50+/52+ can carry CFT when standard 50/52 can't.

[Nightstalker_pl]

Great pictures... I have seen some in RAPORT WTO but these are much more better.

At last we're going to have really modern planes to fly.
Otherwise, MIG-29 isn't bad plane, but to air combat in close distance

Regards,

[corran.pl]

ASPIS is just as advanced,

Are you sure or just arguing with me? Polish F-16 has ALE-50 Towed Decoy System, Greek has not.

LANTIRN 2000 or whatever it's called

Nope, LATRIN is something totally different then Lockheed Martin Sniper XR.

and JDAMs are on the way, plus, we have them for 2 years already!

I don't understand - you have them for 2 years or there are on the way? Last time when I was reading about JDAMs for Greece, US refused to sell them to you.

[flanker7]

Are you sure or just arguing with me? Polish F-16 has ALE-50 Towed Decoy System, Greek has not.

I'll pass



Nope, LATRIN is something totally different then Lockheed Martin Sniper XR.

Still the AAQ-14 is a targeting pod and the advanced version is very capable



I don't understand - you have them for 2 years or there are on the way? Last time when I was reading about JDAMs for Greece, US refused to sell them to you.


Yes, but they changed their "mind" when Greece ordered 30 more F-16s Advanced Block 52+............

Ok corran.pl?

[Brzeczyszczykiewicz]

Hahaha
"My F-16 is better than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111"

[flanker7]

Hahaha
"My F-16 is better than yours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111"

But we have more.........

[daily666]

What a beauty! .

As for getting some used to replace the Su-22s maybe we should get some upped A versions from the Israelis, or from USA through FMA.

[corran.pl]

Still the AAQ-14 is a targeting pod and the advanced version is very capable

Well, It is not so fancy nowadays, there is Sniper and Lightening you know. But it still slightly improves performance of aircraft carrying it.

According to f-16.net your air force has 24 AAQ-14 and 16 AAQ-13 to use on 130 F-16s (40 bl30, 40 bl 50, 50 bl 52+) and you will receive additional 10 with 30 new bl 52+ (not specified, probably sets AAQ-14 + AAQ-13). That's not much. As you can see we receive 36 pod to be used on 48 aircrafts.

This pods can be very useful at bad weather conditions or low altitude flying, if US don't wont to sell them to you maybe you should buy some Israeli Rafael Lightening pods.

Yes, but they changed their "mind" when Greece ordered 30 more F-16s Advanced Block 52+............

Good for you, you may need them.

[flanker7]

Well, It is not so fancy nowadays, there is Sniper and Lightening you know. But it still slightly improves performance of aircraft carrying it.

According to f-16.net your air force has 24 AAQ-14 and 16 AAQ-13 to use on 130 F-16s (40 bl30, 40 bl 50, 50 bl 52+) and you will receive additional 10 with 30 new bl 52+ (not specified, probably sets AAQ-14 + AAQ-13). That's not much. As you can see we receive 36 pod to be used on 48 aircrafts.

This pods can be very useful at bad weather conditions or low altitude flying, if US don't wont to sell them to you maybe you should buy some Israeli Rafael Lightening pods.



Good for you, you may need them.

We have the Lightening II for use with the F-4E PI2000

[perdurabo]

shame we ordered only 48 knowing our politics and their ideas about spending our money they won't buy new planes for next 10-15 years

[corran.pl]

As for getting some used to replace the Su-22s maybe we should get some upped A versions from the Israelis,

Hell no, I really don't think that old, Israeli F-16 are capable of flying, they sped a lot of hours in the air and surly need overhaul (costs), besides Israeli F-16 are heavily moded so they probably haven't a single part common with our bl 52s.

or from USA through FMA.

If you are talking about some block 10 A/Bs found in the middle of the desert then no, this things can't carry AMMRAMs or LANTIRN so they are worth less then ours MiGs.

If you are talking about some C/Ds bl 30/32 then yes, i would be a good solution but:
- don't know if our US friend have any spare F-16C/D and even if the have, if the would sell them to us for reasonable price
- tease aircrafts probably would need overhaul
- Americans wont give us working aircrafts for free (they are not Germans)
If I remember well around 2010 US will use only bl 40/42/50/52, all older C/Ds (bl 25/30/32) will be transfered to NG or Reserve.

The solution I like the most is to gain used F-16 AM/BM from European F-16 users. Not so long ago Jordan has bought 20 Belgian and Dutch F-16 A/B MLU for only 10 million $ a pice, tease are AMMRAM and LANTIRN capable aircrafts after Falcon-Up (capable of spending 4000h in the air without overhaul). Belgium still have 16 F-16 MLU for trade.

shame we ordered only 48 knowing our politics and their ideas about spending our money they won't buy new planes for next 10-15 years

blah... blah... blah...

[corran.pl]

We have the Lightening II for use with the F-4E PI2000

I like this modernisation, F-4s with radar from F/A-18 and up to date avionics can be realy nice interceptor.

[perdurabo]

blah... blah... blah...

yada yada yada just look how long it took them to buy those F16, they started to talk about it in like 1993 or 1995 its 10 years mate! look at Mi8 replacement or Yak40...