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    Default Soccer - the root of all evil

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

    Between this, or the usual riot that breaks out after a win or loss, I'm not
    sure that soccer isn't the devil's own game.

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    Your a yank you wouldent understand

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    If anything, the incident proves that gun control laws are good for public safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelencanarias
    If anything, the incident proves that gun control laws are good for public safety.
    What would you say if he had stabbed them instead?

    The only thing this proves is that people are stupid, and so do stupid things for stupid reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelencanarias
    If anything, the incident proves that gun control laws are good for public safety.
    Allowing the assumption that he had the gun legally: Yeah, a guy who would shoot and kill two people (ie not obey the law) over something this stupid clearly would obey a law that said he couldn't have a gun.

    Anyone know what handgun laws are like in Thailand? If he had this illegally, which isn't a crazy idea considering his actions, he's already ignoring whatever laws restrict his having the gun. Your idea is to...ummmm...change none of the laws that affect him, and restrict law abiding people? Good thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minardiau
    Your a yank you wouldent understand
    Yeah, we don't agree that the pinnacle of sport is Cameroon and Bangladesh struggling for hours (are the games hours long? or do they just seem that way?) to a nil-nil tie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe mama
    Yeah, we don't agree that the pinnacle of sport is Cameroon and Bangladesh struggling for hours (are the games hours long? or do they just seem that way?) to a nil-nil tie.

    Whole days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XShipRider
    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc....ap/index.html

    Between this, or the usual riot that breaks out after a win or loss, I'm not
    sure that soccer isn't the devil's own game.
    I'm going to love this thread, I can tell. All our forum colleagues from Europe, South America, Asia.... well the whole world really are going to fly off the handle and try and talk us Yanks into how great soccer/football is.

    Watching soccer is kind of like watching hockey for the fights, or NASCAR for the car crashes. I want to see a really good riot. Soccer fan, you had better not disappoint me, I know yo can do it.

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    You are interpreting this under an American perspective, of course. It is ok with me, that's part of your culture and your everyday debate between dems and reps.

    It doesn't apply to me, I don't feel involved in that discussion.

    Let me put it this way: I am a Spaniard living in Spain, where we have strict gun control laws. I have never seen anybody carrying a gun other than the police (and I was head bouncer in a macro disco in my youth, imagine the kind of people I had to deal with), and believe me, I feel safe knowing that nobody is going to pull a gun in the middle of a traffic dispute. Because those of you who have been in one will know that in the heat of that situation, if an otherwise calm and law-abiding citizen had a gun there is a good chance he might use it.

    Can a robber pull a gun to rob me? doesn't happen too often, but it can happen. Would I feel safer with no gun control laws? no, I am afraid not.

    Of course, feel free to keep up the debate. It is part of your culture, not mine.

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    As for the appeal of soccer to everybody but the Americans, I have to side with the Yanks in this. Your sports experience is different (and better) than ours. I can understand how unattractive soccer can be for you.

    As for the sport fan's behaviour, you go to the court to watch a good show, act a little crazy but always in a civilized way. When the match is over you go quietly home. That's the way it should be. In the rest of the world, part of the fan flock feels an unstoppable urge to phisically exterminate the other guys. That is simply unthinkable for you, and that is to be commended. That is why you can have floor seats in an NBA match, and we have to build fences to separate players and public.

    Soccer is played in two halves of 45 minutes each, non-stop.

    A soccer match actually lasts less than a football match with all the time-outs, ad breaks and what-nots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelencanarias
    ...in the heat of that situation, if an otherwise calm and law-abiding citizen had a gun there is a good chance he might use it...
    Roughly 100 million americans own roughly 200 million guns legally, ie they are NOT breaking the law with them, which means the extreme vast majority are NOT just pulling them out and using them in heat of the moment.

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    And, to further try to stir up the soccer fans, for the fun of it: is and "over/under" type bet common outside the US? I hear the over/under for the world cup finals is zero. Thrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrilling...
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    The only reason why soccer is not big in the US (eventhough everyone and their cousin has their kid in soccer in many parts of the country), is because the US traditionally sucks at the game (3-0). I remember a few years ago when the US women's soccer team won the women's world cup, everywhere there were posters and everyone was a soccer fan. Just learn how to lose and quit being whiners.

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    That is why I like Hockey, the last real civilize game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fremen
    The only reason why soccer is not big in the US (eventhough everyone and their cousin has their kid in soccer in many parts of the country), is because the US traditionally sucks at the game (3-0). I remember a few years ago when the US women's soccer team won the women's world cup, everywhere there were posters and everyone was a soccer fan. Just learn how to lose and quit being whiners.

    Soccer is not big in the US is because of American football. It would be great for America to win the world cup but people I know are not holding their breaths. When we lose a soccer game we don't riot and act like idiots like some of are southern neighbors like to do.

    My nephew plays football and soccer but he likes football more because you get to hit someone.

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