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    I was curious about the Sniper Weapon System used in the following pic's. I think it's KSK in Afghanistan. Is it an Accuracy International G22 or perhaps an Arctic Warfare Series (AW338, ironic if it is)?

    Any insight on this fluted weapon or unit application in Afghanistan is appreciated. Thanks.







    Also, this one (of the Police SEK I think). Is it a Walther 2000? Who uses this weapon? Help is appreciated. I would very much like to see more pictures of it....





    Also, I'm always eye-ing for really exotic sniper weapons systems. If you have any pics w/ basic info, please post them. By exotic I mean systems like the Blaser R93 Tactical/ LRS and similar. The M82A1 and McBros 95 are always winners though. Thanks!


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    Yes it is an G22! actually, the G22 is a sniper rifle specialized for the german army(folding stock) it's from the accuracy international company. and indeed it is one weapon of the AW (artic warfare)series. but not the AW338 lapua magnum it's 7,62mm.
    i don't know whether the first picture was taken in afghanistan or at an multinational excercise in oman, jordan?!

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    As far as I know that first picture was taken in... the U.S.A.! Somebody commented it time ago.

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    Take a look at this one...



    The expected accuracy of the DSR-1 is almost extreme: some sources state sub-.2 MOA accuracy (0.20 inch / 5 mm groups measured center-to-center at 100 yards) with correct ammunition ad environment conditions.
    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm



    AVZ, thanks for the input. You mean it's this one:


    AI Arctic Warfare Folding
    It looks like the one in the picture, except for the front sight. As for the 7.62mm, Still a BIG round...
    In 1998, the Bundeswehr (Germany Army) also adopted the AW Super Magnum rifle chambered in .300 Winchester magnum (germany designation 7.62x67mm) as Scharfschutzengewehre (sniper rifle - german) G22.
    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn06-e.htm

    Wait, I found it on the AI website. Here it is, front and center....

    Folding stock, no front tower.... That's the one.


    I vaguely found some info on the location. November 2001, when KSK-soldiers trained with the British in the southern Oman province Dhofar. In the past they have also prepared in the United States for desert missions.

    Thanks for the help, AVZ and LOBO

    Lobo, you must have seen this posting
    http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Allied_Germany/ksk012



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    I saw the german soldiers in television in germany. It was an Training in the USA.

    G-22 is only the name in the german army. Normaly known as an AWM. It is nearly the same but with an special optic. It is very nice.

    This is a box of an german military sniper:


    German sniper on an competition in canada:


    German SFOR sniper in Sarajevo in action:



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    Isn't the G22 made by Heckler & Koch?

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    Default Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Series...

    Shadow, that is not a G22 in the last picture. It is indeed a HK:

    The SL9SD
    .30 caliber SL8 Variant
    Caliber 7.62 x 37
    http://www.HKPro.com

    Also, the pic of the Sniper in Canada next to the Barret 82A1is also not a G22. He is probably trying out some other system. It must be a powerful round looking at the size of the bore & comp.

    Look up http://www.accuracyinternational.com
    and http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn38-e.htm
    and http://www.waffenhq.de/index800.html
    for more info...


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    By the way, that third photo is a Walter Wa-2000 indeed. I read somewhere in some website about sniping that less than 200 WA-2000 were built.

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    Because?

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    Hey,

    what do you know about the HK91, HK93 and the HK93 are these weapons any competition to the M4 or the M16, and are these (only for america) Heckler & Koch rifles used in any unit in the US Army, Navy, Air force or the US Marines?
    And do you think the HK69 and HK79 is as good as the M203, or the M79?

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    Ryan94, goto http://www.hkpro.com for all the answers. It's Yes, for the american civilian market; no - not going to replace the M4/M16 line and a matter of preference in terms of the grenade launchers. The barrels on the M203 slide forward where the HK's flip up/drop down or laterally out. The destinct advantage of the HK launchers are the multiple ordinance lengths that can be used which allows greater munitions versatility. On the battlefield you probably would probably only use a limited munitions selection though, meaning the max. opening of the 203 forward slide renders it self suitable for standard combat applications. Really, personal preferences only.

    The russian GP-30 is also a small under barrel launcher. Check out http://www.rusarm.ru/exprod.htm

    Anybody have any info on 'The Dogs of War' type multi launchers?

    Shadow, this is what I found out...
    Overall, the WA-2000 was the very strong and accurate rifle, but unit price was too high and resulting sales were marginal, so it never entered full-scale production.
    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn15-e.htm


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    Hey guys, just a FYI, the rifle the German is shooting in the Canadian picture, is the .50 caliber McMillan Tactical. It's the same rifle in which the Canucks scored the longest kill record (beating out Hathcock), durring Operation Anaconda, in Afghanistan.

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    Thanks Piccolo! I noticed that weapon in your NavySeals Mod. You did a very nice job! I like how the victims just FLY back after being hit in your mod. That was an exceptional programming touch!


    Stock: The McMillan Fiberglass Stocks, Inc.
    "Tac-50" is a pistol grip stock with a detachable butt stock and butt spacer system. This stock was designed for the US Navy for use with a bipod only.


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    'Big Mac’ — McMillan’s Tac-50
    Neither the Canadian government nor DND are willing to comment on CF sniping in Afghanistan but unconfirmed reports put ‘kills’ by 3PPCLI snipers at more than 20. A particularly successful CF rifle is the new 12.7mm McMillan Tac-50. One shot, in the Shah-i-kot, set a gruesome new distance record for sniping — 2,430m. The combat effectiveness of the Tac-50 and CF snipers (nominated for five US Bronze Stars) has now been proven.
    http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-ctac50.htm

    Damn, 2,430 meters!!! Wow! Piccolo, is that some sort of muffler?

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    lol, thats about normal size for most 50BMG suppressors I have seen. From my understanding, they only make the weapon as audible as a 7.62 unsuppressed, which is still considerably loud. Thank you, about the mod, btw. Also, I've heard it actually took three shots to make that record, with the Tact-50. I believe about three Army SF shooters were with the Canucks aiding them, as well.

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