HK417 - new pics

[Vandervahn]

After there was a particular silence towards the larger rifle, HKPRO has a newly put together page concerning the HK417, with new detail pics of the evolved prototype - possibly from Eurosatory.

http://hkpro.com/hk417.htm

Its nice to see that HK apparently opts for up-to-date mags, and that they apparently erased the unloved bolts for connecting magazines of previous G36-design. They should do the same for the HK416 (with optional magwell adapter for STANAG mags).

[Steve Andrews]

I'd marry the carbine variant.

[TacoDelRio]

Pretty sweet. Looks like a handy carbine.

[Freibier]

AR15France!? WTF,O?

The AR15 is the preferred platform for precision semi auto sport shooting in all of europe. Go to a match and the vast majority will be AR15s.
Even the french like them

[REMOV]

Ekhm... this magazine?

regards,
REMOV

[Vandervahn]

...
Ekhm... this magazine?

regards,
REMOV

Yup, that one. By the way, the purpose of shades is to WEAR them, at least buy a new one for a change

[dobrodan]

Now, do these new mags fit in the G3?

If they do, they would be great for extreme winter-duty, as alu-mags are very heat-conducting, increasing the risk of frost-bite on your fingers.

[REMOV]

Now, do these new mags fit in the G3?

I've asked the same question and the answer was: "No.".

[dobrodan]

I've asked the same question and the answer was: "No.".

And, the next logical question is: Do the G3 mags fit in the 417???

[REMOV]

And, the next logical question is: Do the G3 mags fit in the 417?

AFAIK the magazines are not interchangeable. So the G3 magazine fits only in the G3 (and prototype version of the HK417) and the HK417 magazine fits only in the HK417.

regards,
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[thatguy96]

Sounds like HK. Heavens forbid they should attempt a universal magwell. Hell, there's a whole Standard Agreement to tell them how to do it.

[Vandervahn]

Sounds more like the voice of reason. Why the hell should it be compatible to a 50 year old mag design? In military/LE terms there is not a single reason in this world why this should be possible, much less since the G3 has been phased ou of most western militaries that ever used it. Personally, I am convinced of the advantages polymer mags have above metal mags, and basically one can always "downgrade" from the larger magwell, so why shouldnt the new magwell be the standard?

And I am not aware of a STANAG concerning 7.62x51mm mags, much less one that focuses around the G3 mags.

[gaijinsamurai]

Any idea if they will make a version for export to the US? I'd love to have one.

[thatguy96]

Sounds more like the voice of reason. Why the hell should it be compatible to a 50 year old mag design? In military/LE terms there is not a single reason in this world why this should be possible, much less since the G3 has been phased ou of most western militaries that ever used it. Personally, I am convinced of the advantages polymer mags have above metal mags, and basically one can always "downgrade" from the larger magwell, so why shouldnt the new magwell be the standard?

And I am not aware of a STANAG concerning 7.62x51mm mags, much less one that focuses around the G3 mags.

Unless there's a problem with the G3 magazine's upper specifics it wouldn't be that hard to design a polymer one within the parameters. In fact, since HK has access to those, it would take no time all. It also would've been easy for them to do this for the G36, but they chose not to. They could've easily designed their magazine within the parameters of the Standard Agreement and decided not to. In fact, now HK has produced STANAG 5.56x45mm magazines, that won't even work with their G36 line. Am I the only one who finds this slightly ridiculous? What's wrong with making things backwards compatible?

[ZaakM433]

Unless there's a problem with the G3 magazine's upper specifics it wouldn't be that hard to design a polymer one within the parameters. In fact, since HK has access to those, it would take no time all. It also would've been easy for them to do this for the G36, but they chose not to. They could've easily designed their magazine within the parameters of the Standard Agreement and decided not to. In fact, now HK has produced STANAG 5.56x45mm magazines, that won't even work with their G36 line. Am I the only one who finds this slightly ridiculous? What's wrong with making things backwards compatible?

Look where it got windows... plenty of backwards compatability - problems built upon problems... no security whatsoever... CRAP.