What a OICW Weapon Should Consist of.
I think that many people would agree that the solution to a standard .223 ammuntion/ 20 or 25 mm airburst OICW Weapon should be lighter and more less expensive than current (or past) prototypes. Instead of full heavy metalic parts, the Department of Defense, and the Army, should consider this:
1. Standard Natec Polymer cased rounds
2. Shorter 20mm grenades that loads in by hand (instead of by magazine),
and the weapon should hold 3 or 4 rounds for lighter weight.
3. Plastic Polymer high-strength material for weapon's frame.
If anyone disagree's, agree's, or has a totally different idea, please state your oppinion.
This should probably reduce weight from the 1990's prototype by a few pounds, because those versions were around 12-14 pounds (2000 version might be an exception).
I think the Weapon Sucks, and its not ready for any of us to use. Its too big and cumbersome. Once they produce a standard sized version then these perfections you speak about may be considerd by the engineers on the project. But as far as I know we totally canned the project along with the xm8 wich i found to be quite effective.
Obsessed? ......
Originally Posted by Resurrection
just a little.....
I saw this Indonesian OICW thing a couple of years ago. It had a 40mm launcher with an MP7-style weapon underneath. A rather conservative approach building up on the tried and trusted 40mm grenades. It looked playmobil but the concept was worth taking a look at.
I believe that was a Signapore STE design.
http://www.stengg.com/CoyCapPro/detail.aspx?pdid=218
What it should consist of:
Parts that work.
How about an M4 with an M203?
I READ that the Natec polymer rounds had neck and case problems, as in seperation.
Being done already, and they're paying AAI to look into telescoped and caseless ammo too.
Why not just have a straight pull bolt-action and reduce weight that way? That way you keep the mag and do what you suggest. I still say the XM25 is pretty much proof that the combined system is just too bulky at present unless you use something like the stacked ammo concept on the Metal Storm GL being developed for Australia's OICW-like program for the AUG.
Already is this way. Did you think the prototype OICW's had been machined out of a block of steel?
You are right, that's the one. Still way too bulky, but it weighs "only" 6kg and they could probably get it down to 5kg with a more conservative sight... but then there's the question if they should at all integrate these weapons or just make a stand alone grenade rifle and give the grenadier a PDW for backup.
Errmm... the sight is the most important part of all these concepts
(to properly get the ABM to work)
you mean like a XM25 with a MP7?
Say "Hello!" to the Nammo SSW (Squad Support Weapon)
just my opinion...but i think we should worry less about making a super-duper weapon, and more about some other systems, esp protection and information systems. super-duper rifle is ok n all, but id rather have more sapi plates (esp if we can make em lighter) and something along the lines of the future warrior stuff they keep talking about...video to your helmet, built in commo/fbcb2-type stuff...that would make us much more dangerous
A G36K Carbine with AG36 40mm Grenade Launcher and a sight of some sort. All the OICW you'll ever need.
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