Reply With QuoteAre you Marcus Wallenberg or something? Last time I checked Saab wasn't state owned.
I dont see how we make any money on this, we should just give some to Lebanon.
Are you Marcus Wallenberg or something? Last time I checked Saab wasn't state owned.
So why did we pay for it?
what are you talking about?
We sweden, we have put out alot of money, and what do we get back?
Sorry I don't understand what you're saying. eod.
Is my english that bad? oh well.
Love Gripen btw
A fighter jet?Originally Posted by ozumn
I don't either really understand what you're trying to say, try Swedish?
That Sweden pours money on a project but Saab (mind, defence company) lays off workers?
Mate, you think it is easy for such companies to make a profit? You are lucky that Saab has decided to promote this aircraft and not have the fate of VIggen. Czech Republic, South Africa, Hungary, and the Imperial School of Pilots (UK) have purchased it.
Slovakia and Bulgaria are the next targets. Who knows, I may even be lucky to see it with Greek colours.
Sweden ordered Gripen in a competition of 4 private companies (3 American, 1 Swedish).. it's quite logical that Saab hired many people in the 80/90s to develop and build the jets and now that production slow down they will lay off a few people no longer needed.
Like LM now do for the JSF...
Posted on Wed, Aug. 23, 2006email thisprint thisLockheed Martin to cut 300 jobsBy BOB COX
STAR-TELEGRAM STAFF WRITER
Now that much of the design work on the F-35 Lightning II fighter jet has been completed, Lockheed Martin has begun to lay off some of the engineers and other technical workers assigned to the development program.
Last edited by signatory; 08-25-2006 at 01:55 AM.
there is an new artical about Jas 39 on defenseindustrydaily.com
to long to post here
The JAS-39 Gripen: Sweden's 4th Generation Wild Card
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...index.php#more
'In Seventh Heaven'
Norway's Deputy Minister of Defense have been to Sweden again and got a chance to fly the Gripen in between meetings. 50 minutes above the Baltic Sea. Despite lacking training he even landed the jet. (SAAB must have some strong confidence in the automated landing system...)
He also confirmed that Rafale is out of the jet competition.
...and that Eurofighter is losing interest.
Sources:
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...rway/index.php
http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=128150
Videos is available on Tv2.no and NRK.no to members.
Last edited by signatory; 08-31-2006 at 01:22 PM.
Gripen Tipped as Winner for Bulgaria's USD 1 B Fighter Jet Contract
http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=69035
Business: 3 September 2006, Sunday.
The Bulgarian government is looking to buy a new fleet of fighter jets, launching a USD 1B battle involving some of the biggest arms companies in the world, the British Independent reported Saturday.
Boeing, which manufactures the F/A-18, Dassault Aviation of France, and Gripen, the Swedish jet aircraft maker owned by aerospace group Saab, have already responded to the request for information from the Bulgarian Ministry of Defence.
Eurofighter, the jet maker part-owned by BAE Systems, is "considering its response", said a spokesman. "The likelihood is that we will be in it," he added.
Lockheed Martin, maker of the F-16, is expected to meet Bulgaria's MoD later this month.
The Independent cites Sandy Morris, an analyst at ABN Amro, as saying that Gripen might have the best chance at winning the contract because its JAS 39 jet is cheaper than the Eurofighter, which he estimated costs about £50m per plane.
The manufacturer has won similar contracts in the Czech Republic and Hungary. "These have proved pretty happy hunting grounds for Gripen," said Morris. "They have proved themselves quite nimble."
Bulgaria is currently reliant on a fleet of Russian-made MiG 29 jets but is understood to be interested in replacing them with between 16 and 20 planes, which could easily push the total value of the contract past USD 1 M. A request for information is the first step in a bidding process, which can take several years.
Gripen International sign up PR agency for Norwegian campaign
Info:
The Norwegian unit of the industry leading PR agency Burson-Marsteller has received the lucrative contract to promote the Gripen concept in Norway and assist Gripen International on strategic decisions.
The magazine Kampanje speculate that the recent mass medial attention surrounding the State Secretary's flight in a 39D last week was the works of Burson-Marsteller. The flight was covered by two national TV channels and print media.
Only Norwegian text:
http://www.kampanje.com/pr/article48452.ece
http://www.bm.com
Future engines....
As the new Gripen will feature a new engine, there's some talk about which one. There's practially no chance for any other brand than a GE/Volvo engine.
Obvious options:
1. The current F404/RM12 can be upgraded to provide 15% more output pushing it above 20,000 lbs. That could be an option for the MLU of the current Gripens but not for a larger Gripen "N". Today the RM12 deliver 18,000 lbs of thrust at sea level.
2. The F414-400 used on F/A-18 Super Hornet and Growler is a slide-in replacement and require little work to the fuselage. It delivers in its standard GE version ~35% more thrust than F404 at 22,000 lbs.
3. There's also a new F414 in test-phase at GE providing a further 20% more thrust than the current F414. I.e up to 26,400 lbs. A plausable choice and delivers 50% more thrust than the current RM12 but would Gripen be willing to become the first customer ?
4. Another option proposed by Saab and the Swedish military is to build a demonstrator jet capable of accepting a larger engine diameter. A GE engine here is the F110-GE-132 sold to UAE in the F16. It delivers up to 32,500 lbs of thrust.
Volvo deliver parts to all four options. IMO number 2 or 3 is the most likely ones.
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