View Poll Results: Is the 5.56mm Is Adequate?

Voters
0. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    0 0%
  • No

    0 0%
Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: U.S. Army Says 5.56mm Is Adequate

  1. #1
    Senior Member Sayeret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    The Frozen North
    Posts
    3,914

    Default U.S. Army Says 5.56mm Is Adequate

    The U.S. Army completed a study of current 5.56mm M855 round, in response to complaints from troops that this ammunition was in adequate in combat. Troops reported many instances where enemy fighters were hit with one or more M855 rounds and kept coming. The study confirmed that this happened, and discovered why. If the M855 bullet hits slender people at the right angle, and does not hit a bone, it goes right through. That will do some soft tissue damage, but nothing immediately incapacitating. The study examined other military and commercial 5.56mm rounds and found that none of them did the job any better. The study concluded that, if troops aimed higher, and fired two shots, they would have a better chance of dropping people right away. The report recommended more weapons training for the troops, so they will be better able to put two 5.56mm bullets where they will do enough damage to stop oncoming enemy troops.

    The study did not address complaints about long range shots (over 100 meters), or the need for ammo that is better a blasting through doors and walls. The army had been considering a switch of a larger (6.8mm) round, and the Special Forces has been testing such a round in the field. But a switch is apparently off the table at the moment. The U.S. Marine Corps is doing its own study, but has not finished it yet.

    The army report is not likely to be well received by the troops.
    http://www.strategypage.com/dls/arti...0662123544.asp

  2. #2
    Banned user ClydeFrog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Location! Location!
    Posts
    544

    Default

    It's not as terrible as it is made on the internet, but no, it's not really adequate.

  3. #3
    Μολὼν λαβέ Hollis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Stuck in the rain and mud again.
    Posts
    19,309

    Default

    not to poo poo your thread, this is a dead horse, it has been whipped so many times.. it is dust, try search and you can get everything you might want, and on other forums try search.

  4. #4
    Senior Member Sayeret's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    The Frozen North
    Posts
    3,914

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLiS
    not to poo poo your thread, this is a dead horse, it has been whipped so many times.. it is dust, try search and you can get everything you might want, and on other forums try search.
    There's been many new people to join this forum since the last 5.56mm thread I've seen.

    Just don't respond to the topic if it bothers you

  5. #5
    Member crazyman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Ft. Stewart, GA
    Age
    31
    Posts
    715

    Default

    i think its great for what it was made for..but that aint what we're doin anymore. maybe a heavier 5.56 round, i dunno...hardly an expert. the thing that got me is how the report says we need to shoot more, and to start working on 2 rounds high in the chest. dunno what the rest of the army is doing, but thats hardly news here pal

  6. #6
    Μολὼν λαβέ Hollis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Stuck in the rain and mud again.
    Posts
    19,309

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sayeret
    There's been many new people to join this forum since the last 5.56mm thread I've seen.

    Just don't respond to the topic if it bothers you
    Bothers me?, maybe save you/others a lot of time.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Roaming East's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    3,191

    Default

    hmmm, aiming for 'adequacy' doesnt seem the proper choice when it comes to getting a job down.

  8. #8
    Member Former Gold Falcon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Sun Valley, Idaho
    Posts
    295

    Default

    Shame that Lemas BMT will most likely be limited to SOF.....


    T.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Melbourne, Florida, USA
    Posts
    147

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Former Gold Falcon
    Shame that Lemas BMT will most likely be limited to SOF.....


    T.
    Not to start a flamewar, but I'm convinced that Lemas BMT is a farse. I'll provide a link later in the day, leaving for work now.

  10. #10
    Avoiding Asshats, Lying Low DeltaWhisky58's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Feeling The HateŽ
    Posts
    14,624

    Default

    Let's face it, the majority of our membership is not qualified to even vote on this poll.

    Only those who have actually used 5.56x45mm on live targets may speak with any authority in this topic. I for one to not have the experience to vote on this poll.

    I am closing this thread for the very reason that the poll will not give a representative answer and is therefore pointless.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •