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I heard some grease on helps preventing jams.
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the bad guys know about geneva convention, and find and use loop-holes, while those loop-holes have'nt been patched up. Send 'em to allah i say !
Would they rub the bullets with pig fat before?
I heard some grease on helps preventing jams
lol, sorry guys, I have a problem where I mix up my thoughts, I meant ship em to antartica, not australia, I like aussies to much to do that to their country ;D
yes....I like the way you think LaworkerbeeOriginally Posted by Laworkerbee
I honestly wish Tane was here to comment on this. And like Royal said, he and the rest of us are not Judge Dredd. At what point during a firefight/surrender is it OK to be like the rumored Lt. Spears and give them a cigarette and then pull the trigger on your Thompson.....Seriously, we are indoctrinated nearly from birth that murder is wrong. That doesn't chang because you are a soldier. In a war that line becomes blurred. Better to kill them now than fight them later. Right? How do you figure out when to shoot a guy with his hands in the air, even if you seriously, and I mean seriously, think he needs killing. What does that do to you as a human being? Do you become the kind of guy that rationalizes everything because you can't live with the fact that you shot a bunch of combatants that had surrendered because you felt they were too dangerous to be left alive...
Well, I used to have some measure of respect for Mr Peters. I've read most of his novels and a good many of his articles.
Now I think he's just another fuckin media idiot mouthpiece irrespective of his prior service.
So, the prevailing attitude amongst many on this site seems to agree with Mr Peters. Terrorists/insurgents should be executed out of hand, on the spot, wherever and whenever they are found.
Why? Apparently because they do it to 'us', therefore that means we should do it to 'them'.
Wow, incredibly detailed deductive reasoning at work there...
I am a professional soldier. I have been for sixteen years. I have spent all of that time in what we refer to as 'teeth arm corps'. They're the guys who actually pull the trigger, etc, as opposed from those who sit behind desks collecting medals for promotional purposes.
I have never believed that it is acceptable to stoop to the standards of those I have fought when their behaviour has not adhered to the Laws of Armed Conflict and I've fought some real shitbags in my time.
I have never met another professional soldier from any country who disagreed with me.
To many on this site and a few on this thread that will no doubt come as quite a shock.
Why would someone who willingly and continuously puts themselves in harms way not use every means possible to wage war against his opponent?
Why wouldn't he 'fight fire with fire'?
Why indeed.
Is he weak?
Is he soft?
Is he 'mentally wrecked'?
Is he indeed.
The fact is I know I'm better than the men and women I stand against. I am morally superior and personally, I always will be.
Nobody is going to take that away from me. Even if in the future the laws are changed to make acting like the terrorists we fight legal. I still won't do it.
Our society and respective cultures teach us to act better than that. That is why we will eventually prevail. Not because we became what we most despised.
But apparently some of you think otherwise,
bridget
Laworkerbee
deagle
Maybe you'd like to enlighten us as to exactly how YOU would do it? Bullet to the back of the neck? Or do you consider that too humane? Maybe a blunt, rusty knife to the throat?
C'mon tough c***s, tell us how you would do it. Or aren't you prepared to cover your hands in blood?
Why don't you give up those nice comfortable day jobs and get out there with the rest of us, show us how its done?
HOLLiS
You're pathetic old man. You just don't have a fucken clue do you?
Did you execute prisoners in South Vietnam during your tour? If its okay to do it now it must have been acceptable then.
Stupid old fool, get back on the medication before you lose it completely.
No matter how much I despise terrorists, and I really do, at least they have the guts to do what they believe and for that I will respect them.
You cowardly shitbags however disgust me. Not only do you preach the same abhorent drivel as terrorists, you wouldn't have the courage, such as it is, to do the deed yourselves.
Fucken pathetic.
Ngati Tumatuenga
whilst I consider your post harsh I do consider it a good reality check, I like the style in which CJ posed the question more.
But to answer simply after digesting everything Firetxmi posed to me, I can say no I would not want our men and women serving overseas put in a position where they are judge, jury, and executioner and have murder on their conscience.
Good to hear!
That's good. It was intended to be harsh in line with the subject matter.
That's even better.
Most people would prefer an attitude adjustment from CJ rather from me I would imagine. Of course if you don't say anything I consider stupid then you won't have to feel my wrath.
If that reads as arrogance, I could care less. If you were standing in my shoes you would feel EXACTLY the same.
Reasoned, sensible and to the point after reading so much of the rubbish posted by our armchair warriors.Well, I used to have some measure of respect for Mr Peters. I've read most of his novels and a good many of his articles.
Now I think he's just another fuckin media idiot mouthpiece irrespective of his prior service.
So, the prevailing attitude amongst many on this site seems to agree with Mr Peters. Terrorists/insurgents should be executed out of hand, on the spot, wherever and whenever they are found.
Why? Apparently because they do it to 'us', therefore that means we should do it to 'them'.
Wow, incredibly detailed deductive reasoning at work there...
I am a professional soldier. I have been for sixteen years. I have spent all of that time in what we refer to as 'teeth arm corps'. They're the guys who actually pull the trigger, etc, as opposed from those who sit behind desks collecting medals for promotional purposes.
I have never believed that it is acceptable to stoop to the standards of those I have fought when their behaviour has not adhered to the Laws of Armed Conflict and I've fought some real shitbags in my time.
I have never met another professional soldier from any country who disagreed with me.
To many on this site and a few on this thread that will no doubt come as quite a shock.
Why would someone who willingly and continuously puts themselves in harms way not use every means possible to wage war against his opponent?
Why wouldn't he 'fight fire with fire'?
Why indeed.
Is he weak?
Is he soft?
Is he 'mentally wrecked'?
Is he indeed.
The fact is I know I'm better than the men and women I stand against. I am morally superior and personally, I always will be.
Nobody is going to take that away from me. Even if in the future the laws are changed to make acting like the terrorists we fight legal. I still won't do it.
Our society and respective cultures teach us to act better than that. That is why we will eventually prevail. Not because we became what we most despised.
But apparently some of you think otherwise,
bridget
Laworkerbee
deagle
Maybe you'd like to enlighten us as to exactly how YOU would do it? Bullet to the back of the neck? Or do you consider that too humane? Maybe a blunt, rusty knife to the throat?
C'mon tough c***s, tell us how you would do it. Or aren't you prepared to cover your hands in blood?
Why don't you give up those nice comfortable day jobs and get out there with the rest of us, show us how its done?
HOLLiS
You're pathetic old man. You just don't have a fucken clue do you?
Did you execute prisoners in South Vietnam during your tour? If its okay to do it now it must have been acceptable then.
Stupid old fool, get back on the medication before you lose it completely.
No matter how much I despise terrorists, and I really do, at least they have the guts to do what they believe and for that I will respect them.
You cowardly shitbags however disgust me. Not only do you preach the same abhorent drivel as terrorists, you wouldn't have the courage, such as it is, to do the deed yourselves.
Fucken pathetic.
To a large majority of our membership ... ... ... Take note of what this guy says before spitting any more venom from your comforatable homes - this guy has been there and done it, have you? I for one have not and can only imagine what the front line is like. Remember what guys like Ngati have to say.
Take a reality check guys - wise up!
I salute you Sir!
I don't think a terrorist/ illegal combatant should be given in any chance to surrender in an actual firefight, and that's why every chance to verify a kill should be taken. However, if he has manged to surrender, or in cases where they are caught unarmed in an non-combat situation, we can not stoop to field executions.
You respect their "guts" to purposely kill civilians... good jobNo matter how much I despise terrorists, and I really do, at least they have the guts to do what they believe and for that I will respect them.
It's a good job that we don't have to fight alongside you, but just defend your right to spout murderous drivel in the internet instead then isn't it?
How very big of you to pay at least that lip service to the laws of war. Thank you so much.
No ****head - he respects their "guts" to get off their arrses and fight for what they believe in rather than playing armchair commando.You respect their "guts" to purposely kill civilians... good job
Ilegal combatant are not defended by the rules of war.
I don't have an armchair.
It doesn't take guts to go kill civilians, anyone who thinks like that ...
ps. Sure is nice that mods are allowed to curse people on this board, but if it's vice-versa they just ban them.
'Illegal combatant' is not a term even recognised by the LOAC's.
That I find very hard to believe.
It takes either psycopathy or guts to kill anyone.
C'est la vie...
Ngati- one of the best posts I've ever read here. Accurate, articulate and with a little trademark bite- well done sir.
Tamir- shut your hole
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