Reply With Quote1st Aviation BrigadeOriginally Posted by Alex-L
trying to identify a patch for somebody
http://www.1stavnbde.com/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...y/1avn-bde.htm
http://www.rucker.army.mil/1AB/1AB.htm
Patch info
trying to identify a patch for somebody
1st Aviation Brigadetrying to identify a patch for somebody
http://www.1stavnbde.com/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...y/1avn-bde.htm
http://www.rucker.army.mil/1AB/1AB.htm
thank you.
Patch collection
searched around and couldn't find a thread related to patch collection, just hey whats this patch stuff. BUT if there is one plz delete. post em if you got them
Dont know where this came from, probably from my grandpa
Random patches, I think some of them are flashes and other are Airborne related things, not sure.
Ranger tabs and scrolls, i have a bunch more somewhere
Some Airborne stuff
I think these are Marine Infantry division patches
Division patches, i am missing a lot as you can tell
anyone know what i am missing other then the 5th?
it seems that alot of those are reproductions, hope you realize that.
i wouldnt doubt it, but i probably have 10 of each, a lot of them are older than me, the collection i have wasnt started by me, but by my father and most of the ones i bought were probably repros
Im not sure "reproductions" is the right word for 90% of those patches. Most are just examples of post 1969 merrowed edge government issue patches. Which ones were you reffering to?? Those two Ranger scrolls perhaps? The 6th Ranger Bat. scroll is the most likely of them all to be a repro but the pic quality is too low to tell. Just because its not a cut edge WW2 original doesnt make it a repro. The US government contracted for patches like that to be made well after the war, ie for use as combat patches for those who had served in those units but were still active duty. It is also true however that "elite" patches are the most likely to be reproduced. The most interesting patch is the first one. Id like to see it up close. Ive been collecting patches for a long long time and if its real its a very rare and fine patch. My guess is that its probably an original. You shouldnt go slamming the guys patches when you clearly have a limited grasp of the subject.
JW
the first patch is very interesting, and very big. id say its about 9 inchs by 7 inchs.
More on patches...
Cstafford,
Just thought I might add of few things to you directly.
While its not a stellar collection its a good start. Ive been collecting for years and at one point my collection didnt look all that different from yours. If you are serious about collecting than you should start by finding other collectors or reputable dealers in your area and look at the real stuff. Books are great but nothing beats seeing the real deal up close. You'll notice details that are not so obvious in the "patch books" Eventually you will get a feel for whats good and whats not. Also its helpful to have a somewhat narrow scope in your collecting habits. For instance, one area I collect heavily is Korean made Imjin Scout and JSA patches. Remember that "in theory" your collection should have a beginning and an end. Having an open ended collecting habit gets expensive and will tend to hack off your wife/GF or whatever and in the end what you have is a pile rather than a collection. Also its helpful to point out to your wife/GF that those patches are worth money and in a pinch you can get your money back out of them and in some cases make a profit. While this isnt always completely true it can be helpful when you start to catch flak for all that "crap" you buy. So find an area of interest that really sparks your interest and have fun with it. Patches dont have to be expensive to be good either. I have alot of fun collecting in areas that the hardcore collectors tend to stay away from.
You have a few patches in your pics that are really quite nice. That first one like I said ealier is very cool. The subdued 3rd Ranger battalion scroll is also pretty cool. Usually seen in the Greneda time frame. In fact I dont even have an original of that patch ijn my collection although I plan to fix that soon enough. I cant say for sure if yours is an original or not though. Like I said "elite" units are heavily reproduced.
Anyway, just thought I would spout off a little, hope this was helpful. And have fun, keep posting your finds I for one enjoy seeing the fruits of other collectors labours.
JW
That was probably meant to be sewn on a "tour jacket" or shirt. Either in the breats pocket area or in the center of the back. Where did you get it?? It touches on an area I collect, Korean made stuuf is a weakness of mine since I served there in 91-92. After awhile you can pick out original Korean made stuff as the lettering is dictinctly of a different style than other asian made patches. just something that can be picked up on once see enough of it.
1st CAV!!!!
ASMIC (American Society of Military Insignia Collectors)
http://www.asmic.org/
The book im using atm is called Army Badges and Insignia of World War 2, its a great book that my dad gave to me. I really dont know where that 1st patch came from, the only thing i can think of is my dad bought it a long time ago or my grandpa got it some where. Thanks for the info btw, my orginal aim back in the day was to get all of the WW2 era division patches and stuff.
An excellent resource!! Check out the shows/swap meets that they sponsor if you can get to any, a bonanza for any patch nut. Ive been known to spend hundreds of dollars at the shows at Ft Belvoir here in Virginia, thank god they are only held quarterly. Also if you can locate back issues of thier magazine they are a wealth of knowledge.
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