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......is that a .22LR rifle?
......is that a .22LR rifle?
The Hmong have settled mainly in Minneapolis, Fresno and Richmond California. It's a close knit community. They have a great festival every year in Minnesota. The native dresses are very impressive.
The kids play volleyball with thier feet. Something they learned from the Thais.
I've read that the Montangard (Vietnamese Hill People) are settled in the Carolinas thanks to the effort of the Army Special Forces.
I have a kid and this is just pretty sad for a kid to endure on a daily basis.
Can the UN reach out to these people?
WOW! Thats all I can say
and do what? Tahiland has shutdown all thier refugee camps that were on the border with Laos and Cambodia.Originally Posted by Sand Man
About the Hmong in Lao,After Pathet Lao Army was defeat they escape Communist Army and hide in Pu Bia valley, Saysomboun Special Zone in Xieng Khouang Province.Communist Army attempt to purge them out, but did not success.In 2005 Lao Army combine join operation with Vietnam Army by surrounding Saysomboun Special Zone forced Hmong rebel to starvation.
There are 6,558 ethnic Hmong living 2 Hmong Refugee Camps in Khao Kho district in Thailand’s Phetchabun province.But Thai gov attempt to push them back to Laos.But the Lao gov is refusing to allow them back.
Pardon my ignorance... I do not know what were the activities of the Hmong during the war is.. but since they are working for the C!A.. then I have to assumed that their activities are less than humane.. Death Squads, drugs 'n' such... comes to mind.
If that's the case, I would understand the Hatred towards them.
People just can't possibly give up on them.
This is the update photos of the refugee camp in Phetchabun province.
from
http://www.tojsiab.com/duab/index.ph..._DEJ_DAWB&id=5
Damn...thats nearly the entire valley.
Huh? As in...? Please elaborate.
What does a C!A secret army do.. that they need to be secret...
Mirror your research on the same actions in El Salvador, Nicaraguan contras based in Honduras, Guatemala (FRAPH and Cedras), Bolivia, Brazil, Cambodia, Columbia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, East Timor (from 1975-76), Mexico (Brigada Blanca), Puerto Rico (1978),Thailand (1973-76), Uruguay (1970-72) .... and presently possibly Iraq... and why not Laos ???
I'll research some of those events shortly. However, to say that the Hmong actions are "less than humane" because they work for the CIA, would be jumping the gun a little? As far as I know, they were fighting the Communist forces in Laos. I highly doubt their actions involved "death squads" and "drugs". Not saying it is impossible, but if there is evidence of "death squads" and "drugs" by the Hmongs, I'd like to see.
For drugs.. simply google "Hmong Drugs Laos"... they are Opium growers... you know..
for Death Squads (seems a bit difficult for you) .. so here it is.. though they did not name the Hmong.. but since Hmong secret army numbers about 30,000 strong.. and the other is Meo tribe (Primary opium Growers), Therefore I posted that I have to Assume they are in Drugs and assassinations 'n' such activities.
http://www.peacemagazine.org/archive/v04n2p09.htmFrom 1968 to 1971 Theodore Shackley and Tom Clines supervised the Special Operations Group in Laos. The secret army assassinated over 100,000 noncombatant villagers: mayors, bookkeepers, clerks and other political figures in Laos, Cambodia and Thailand. These killings established a foundation of terror for the Laotian government, undermined Prince Norodom Sihanouk's efforts to steer a neutral course for Cambodia, and discouraged the growth of democracy in Thailand. The style of terror resembled the random killings of Colonel Kurtz's Montagnards in the film Apocalypse Now. Unfortunately movie watchers are deceived into thinking such madness would bring official punishment instead of promotions.
The antics of the Secret Team in Laos would be a prelude to even more destructive activities in Vietnam, where their program of narcotics smuggling and assassination would develop even greater scope. This war was too massive to let the brunt of the fighting to fall to tribal minorities and foreign mercenaries, causing America to officially enter Southeast Asia.
The U.S. client state's government became so deeply involved in illegal activities, such as the heroin trade and thievery, that it more resembled an organized crime syndicate than a coalition of conservative political parties. The terrorist operations of the Secret Team in Vietnam, such as the infamous Phoenix Program, destroyed both the "third force" and the communist-led National Liberation Front, tending to make the domination of the area by North Vietnam the inevitable outcome of the conflict.
Interesting read. I have heard of several accusations of General Vang Pao (not Van Pao, as your source stated) and his involvement in opium in the past. If I recall correctly, isn't the movie Air America loosely based on it? Even if he was indeed corrupt (mind you, that not all Hmongs agree nor have they always followed the actions of Vang Pao), the mass majority of the Hmongs who fought during that era were not part of any death squads or drug operation. How do I know? My father was a lieutenant during that era and never was he or his fellow soldiers part of any assasination squad or drug operation. Not to sound sarcastic, but they didn't exactly have liesure time to be smuggling or growing opium when the Communist forces were killing them off in numbers, raiding their villages, pounding them with artillery, capturing any males, etc. Perhaps the higher ranking officials had the time to play their little games, but for the common soldier, it was about survival. I believe firmly that most of the Hmong who fought during that time, fought with great courage, bravery, and honor to defend their way of life. To say that the actions of the Hmongs are considered "less than humane" because of a few individuals would be very unfair. Believe what you will, as I am not here to change your opinion. You are entitled to your own beliefs.Just wanted to point out that those issues (death squad/drugs) isn't representative of the actions of all the Hmongs.
Last edited by Diemos; 10-08-2006 at 10:44 PM.
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