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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy View Post
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    Affirmative, Sir. See you in 3 days. We will be waiting. Out.

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    One thing that can be counted on is an undisciplined and inexperienced military. So I think it would be wise to take advange of it.
    Stage the coup for the day following/night of the Independence day celebrations, while everyone's guard is down. Send bottles of drugged cognac or something to the upper echelon commanders and generals courtesy of ''his excellency''. When the actual coup is underway, the commanders will be in unable to command their troops. The less-experienced junior officers, without express orders from above, will be hesitant and confused as to what course of action to take. Further confusion can be sown by spreading disinformation via the captured media outlets or by planting operatives within the ranks. In this way, we could theoretically have the military do some of the work for us- by seizing and sealing strategic locales. Or, they could be sent on your garden variety snipe-hunt charging, inland towards the "invading cameroonians" or something. Meanwhile, the remaining forces will be comprised of the Morraccan guards and any military elements that remain in place.

    Solid idea, or improbable? I think it has a shot at working becuase of the relatively limited number of officials to be dealt with in conjunction with an undisciplined adversary. Thoughts?

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    your main concern is alwasy going to be the Morroccans and other mercenary guards, they should be your primary objective from the start, once removed the rest of the military will be easy to control. Remember a snake is only dangerous at the head, remove it and it ceases to exist

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    btw you should also look at disrupting communications since they have an defence agreement with Angola, no need to take unnecessary risks. The advantage is that the president is not very mobile due to his illness but you must neutralise both sons at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBiteLeader View Post
    One thing that can be counted on is an undisciplined and inexperienced military. So I think it would be wise to take advange of it.
    Stage the coup for the day following/night of the Independence day celebrations, while everyone's guard is down. Send bottles of drugged cognac or something to the upper echelon commanders and generals courtesy of ''his excellency''. When the actual coup is underway, the commanders will be in unable to command their troops. The less-experienced junior officers, without express orders from above, will be hesitant and confused as to what course of action to take. Further confusion can be sown by spreading disinformation via the captured media outlets or by planting operatives within the ranks. In this way, we could theoretically have the military do some of the work for us- by seizing and sealing strategic locales. Or, they could be sent on your garden variety snipe-hunt charging, inland towards the "invading cameroonians" or something. Meanwhile, the remaining forces will be comprised of the Morraccan guards and any military elements that remain in place.

    Solid idea, or improbable? I think it has a shot at working becuase of the relatively limited number of officials to be dealt with in conjunction with an undisciplined adversary. Thoughts?
    I dunno about the drugged congnac but it seems family and ethnic ties to the president determine promotions and influence within the military. Military decision-making is completely centralized with the President also serving as the Minister of Defense. So incompetent commanders are likely and the effect of a 'decapitation' strike will be that much greater.

    Also I've already mentioned tasking a portuion of the local mercs with causing distraction and conducting misinformation operations.

    Definately push the Presidential guard to the head of the centre of gravity list though.

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    Helfish, i grant you the order of Hero of Mp.net for this thread.....good idea.

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    You are going about it all wrong.......

    use the 50 mil to purchase McDonalds, KFC and Pizza Hut Franchises. Bring in Cosmetics, Lingerie, epiladys and hot wax kits. Use your mini-army as sales reps, counter people during the day and counter-competition operatives at night. In a year you will own the whole country!

    It's worked for us!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ngati Tumatuenga View Post
    I dunno about the drugged congnac but it seems family and ethnic ties to the president determine promotions and influence within the military. Military decision-making is completely centralized with the President also serving as the Minister of Defense. So incompetent commanders are likely and the effect of a 'decapitation' strike will be that much greater.

    Also I've already mentioned tasking a portuion of the local mercs with causing distraction and conducting misinformation operations.

    Definately push the Presidential guard to the head of the centre of gravity list though.
    First time for me wading in........

    Agreed.....I'd say a significant portion of available resources would have to be allocated to eliminating the threat posed by the Presidential Guard...they would have to be decisively ambushed with the assumption that if they aren't eliminated as a counterthreat the risk of failure would then grow exponentially. I would be particularly concerned about their weapons storage as well as develop a Psy Ops plan to nullify a threat posed by any CP detail members that leak.

    That alone would likely require most/all resources as it would probably require multiple simeltaneous attacks.

    I'd also add a REAL good Siggie NCO and a couple decent SIGINT helpers in country months beforehand under a civilian telecom engineering cover...in most 3rd/4th world countries most modern telecom is wireless as it's too expensive to run old school copper anymore. So SOME aspects of the intelligence collection effort MIGHT be a bit easier.

    My GUESS is that besides the HUMINT fellas getting friendly with the janitor and laundry lady at the President's house and army barracks, a couple months of cellular traffic analysis and a bit of flash commercial coms kit would paint a pretty picture of players and patterns.

    Plus any players not captured or killed might be DF'd or spoofed by the Siggies to run them down.

    Personally, I'd also go with Ngati's suggestion of all Ex-Commonwealth pers.....preferably all from the same country, preferably most/all pers Sgt and up...since taskings would likely demand the additional experience, training, and maturity of achieving objectives in Det strength or possibly even individually....and the trust that peers willl likely succeed and not quit.


    My GUESS is that the local army militia would be viewed in two ways by the leadership:

    1.) As the primary means to supress the public
    2.) As a potential threat to the regime

    So nullifying the threat posed by the army/militia MIGHT be as simple as taking they armory, since they are probably not trusted with arms and/or ammunition.

    The amount of energy money is pretty substantial....therefore it's safe to say that anyone savvy enough to gain power would have the instincts to try and retain power.

    Assume the enemy is world class.

    To avoid being penetrated by regime intelligence the plan would require quality HUMINT collectors, rather than quantity.

    A whole bunch of very fit, clean cut, white fellas aged in their late 20's to early 50's would DEFINITELY be on the radar of even an inept Presidential CP detail.

    If the pool of vetted pers is substantial enough, and all things being equal, I'd throw in some females, folks with varying ethnicities, and those with foreign(any) language skills to avoid the fatal "Why are things seen?"

    Quality over quantity would also be relevant with local pers utilized...consider using Expats living in neighbouring countries.

    Vet, vet, vet...if even a hint of a problem.....hire them and point them in a harmless circle.

    I would be leery of using any/many locals in key roles other that as liason/PR/local knowledge experts, one or two per section.

    Those pers doing the early close target recce would also include a visit by the most experienced/capable/senior infantryman and loggie to ascertain the best seaborne approach and staging area for the attack.

    The same S2 pers would have previously determined the best staging area in Gabon, Cameroon, or Nigeria...whichever country offers to least likelihood of regime counterintelligence penetration of the operation.

    I would have a procurement cell working from wherever it is most amenable to gather the necessary kit and avoid counterintelligence efforts......2-3 sea going vessels for redundancy, weapons, ammunition, comms, stores, PAYROLL, etc.

    Once executed, and if tacid approval hasn't already been granted by a UN Security Council Sponsor and large oil company with serious geopolitical influence, I'd be on the phone holding a firesale auction for exploration and development licenses to get the nod.

    If successful, I'd have the HUMINTers quickly vet local cops/militia/army and get those amenable BACK ON THE STREETS ASAP with weapons minus firing pins accompanied by newly promoted/previously vetted/armed locals that escorted the assault group now performing the role of "commissar".

    With $25 million,

    I'd roughly allocate it in the following manner and priority based on a minimum 12 month operational time frame once funds become available and no other time frame restrictions such as seasonal weather/tide/locally significant variables apply.

    $5 million for team recruitment and up front inducements.(months 1-8 Command Cell, Procurement Cell, HUMINTers, Siggies, Infantrymen in that order of need )
    $2 million to develop staging area and to deploy the entire team into the region. (Months 4-5 +11 )
    $2 million for HUMINT/SIGINT,CTR of target.(months 6-11)
    $6 million for kit procurement(months 4-11)
    $5 million contingency for overruns and cash for conflict resolution.
    $5 million for backend compensation/insurance policies/funds to negotiate captured team member release.

    My archair general guess says it would require:

    Diplomatic liason Unit:

    1 dodgy diplomat, to get international political buy-in using retained media/PR management support

    Command Cell:
    Operational CO
    2IC
    Most reliable vetted local reporting directly to CO

    Procurement Cell:
    OC the most dodgy SNCO in the Commonwealth.....probably Australian
    2 VERY dodgy SNCOs

    HUMINT Cell:
    OC SNCO(doubles as command Cell S2 upon commencement of Op)
    3 SNCO HUMINTers(attached to most mission critical rifle sections upon commencement of Op)
    Local sources developed by HUMINTers

    SIGINT Cell:
    OC SNCO(Doubles as
    3 SNCO SIGINT(attached to Command Cell upon commencement of Op)

    Transport Cell:
    3 drivers/boat handlers/mechanics
    2-3 boats, a dozen or more vehicles

    A Helo would be nice, but could be a logistical nightmare to stage into the area.....local gunships maintained by foreign crew would likely be deemed to unreliable to depend upon for movement/support.

    Recce Section X 1:
    4 X 2 man Dets
    IF required prior to Op Commencement, capable of being split into Dets, focused on realtime Int on highest value targets

    Infantry Sections X 3:
    Section Commander SNCO
    2IC SNCO
    rifleman X 6 Corporal in rank or higher
    2 vetted expat locals wearing local police/militia/army uniforms

    Local "Dog and Pony" Show:

    Remainder of locals tasked to act as coup supporters/snitches/Psy Ops "Happy Locals" for media within Police/Militia/Army/major public areas after assault and during Reorg.

    Weapons dependant upon tasking, but I'd say ammunition, section/det stores, a bit of water, and more ammunition...if you get hungry or need a hootchie you probably failed.

    I don't think it would require "Black Ops SF" pers...a couple people with unconventional backgrounds in the planning process and close recce would certainly be beneficial, the bulk of the work once the operation is commenced would be mainly light infantry-type work...unless of course I'm completely off the mark.

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    Nice breakdown.

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    Interesting plan, Flagg. Do you think it would require an entire year to plan and execute the coup?

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    OK. I'm a big fucking retard. I just realized that Malabo, the capital, is on an island, not the mainland. This might change things in the planning.

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    Democracy, Obiang Style

    Soldiers are a common if not pervasive sight on the streets of Malabo, and security is tight, particularly as several coup plots, organized abroad by exile groups, have been busted up the past few years by authorities in Angola and Nigeria. The biggest threat to Obiang, though, comes from within his own clan, as infighting has erupted over who is to get the biggest share of the petroleum spoils. Lacking confidence in the loyalty of his own troops, Obiang depends for his primary protection on roughly 100 Moroccans, provided by the former king, Hassan, who serve as the regime's praetorian guard. When Obiang is at his office or the nearby presidential palace, the surrounding area is sealed off. One day, unaware that Musselman and John Hess were meeting with Obiang, I asked a cabdriver to take me to the church off the main square. When we got close, the driver spotted a group of armed men standing by a squadron of five SUVs, and he quickly turned tail.
    Democracy appears to be spreading about as slowly as the oil wealth. Guineans can choose among two TV and two radio stations--in both cases the government operates one and Teodoro Obiang the other. There are no daily newspapers, and the few publications that do circulate offer fawning praise of the regime. La Gaceta de Guinea Ecuatorial, a glossy monthly, is filled with interviews with government officials and local businessmen. The ministry of information sells Ebano, a thin newsletter; the issue I bought, for about $1, hailed Teodoro as "the minister most loved by the people for his pragmatic, humanitarian and very dynamic character." Criticism of the government is rare but tolerated--one article in Ebano denounced official corruption and said some officials "consider themselves to have won the lottery"--but direct criticism of Obiang is forbidden.
    Obiang did legalize political parties in the early 1990s, though by then many prominent opposition figures had fled abroad and remained fearful of returning. The government has also banned a number of parties, and others have waited years to be recognized. Of twelve authorized opposition parties that do function, eleven have aligned themselves with the Obiang regime, after receiving cash payoffs and other blandishments.
    Rafael, a tall man with flecks of white in his beard, belongs to the Convergence for Social Democracy (CPDS), the one opposition group that has refused to work with the government. Until a few years ago, he said, it was a crime to greet a member of the opposition. Obiang has lifted that law, as well as one that banned opposition members from owning a business or working (public-sector jobs and some private-sector positions still require ruling-party membership). "The government has taken some important steps," he says. "At least they are willing to talk to the opposition."
    Rafael escorted me to an interview with the CPDS's leader, Placido Mico, who was jailed and tortured in 1993 and has been detained periodically since then. We met at party headquarters, a few rooms on the second floor of a run-down residential building. There's a desk at the front of the main room, upon which sits an old manual typewriter, and about fifteen school chairs. This, pretty much, constitutes the party's assets. Mico, 38, a short man neatly dressed in slacks and a short-sleeved dress shirt, and wearing glasses with one lens cracked, looks like a high school teacher, which is what he was before he ran afoul of the authorities. He is dubious of the government's political "opening," particularly as the oil bonanza has left Obiang less dependent on the kindness of foreign donors. "When you need aid you are more sensitive to international criticism," he says. "The government now has its own money and doesn't have to listen to anyone."
    Mico's party has virtually no access to the media. It does put out its own publication, La Verdad (The Truth), a few times a year. The latest issue has been set to go to press for a week, but the party hasn't been able to print it because the city has been virtually without electricity. CPDS members can generally circulate freely in Malabo and Bata, but not in the rest of the country. And even in Bata, two party members have been in jail for the past four months, charged with "defaming the head of state." "If we send people to villages, the authorities will ask them for authorization papers," Mico says. "There's a climate here of intimidation and fear."
    In many ways, that intimidation is directed more at the general population than at the political opposition. I heard an eyewitness account of a recent incident that took place in the small town of Luba. There a soldier shot a man drinking in a bar after he complained about the city's shortage of electricity. The man lay bleeding in the street for an hour before security forces allowed him to be moved to a hospital, where he died a short time later.
    From a good article: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020422/silverstein

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    Malabo wide





    Presidential Compound



    Area immediately west of compound



    Malabo Port (there seem to be a couple of other small port facilities along the coast)



    Embassy area



    Airport



    Airport detail. Note C-130, Mi-8/17, many corporate jets (probably oil company?)

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    I'd get a computer hacker and some other techies to be part of my crew - they could make stuff up and spread disinformation before and during the coup. WHen the pipe hitters seize comms, instead of hearing "This is so, and so... please remain calm..." you could have duplicated normal programming (so the populace wouldn't know that anything out of the ordinary was happening until the coups was a done deal) or you could make up something about the president resigning, handing power to whoever your puppet is, etc. There are a lot of details for me to think about here, this is just a very rough outline of this part of the plan.

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    What if their communications infrastructure wasn't computerized?

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