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    I'm just curious about the current status of the Russian Military. Every since the fall of the Soviet Union Russia's military seems to be goin down hill, but is it improving??? I've read and seen videos of Russian recruits being abused and beaten by superiors, is this still a major problem? Also how much money does Russia spend on its military defense compared to the U.S. or other western countries? Since Russia is the largest country on the planet you would think that with all of the resources (potential money) they have they could fix their military problems...

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    Just like its other areas such as industrial production, the USSR's economy and manned space exploration feats, Russia's military might fell down really bad for a period after the USSR fell but lately its making some what of a comeback. A growing economy, increased international trade and giant oil revenues make the boys at the Kremlin feel more confident on military spending. The Navy doesn't really stand up against other nations and naval bases outside Russia in the old USSR have been evacuated but the Ruskies have some great SSNs aswell as ballistic missile submarine and a huge number of top class operational fighter aircraft along with some interesting prototypes - their defense budget has seen a 22% increase, Russia's Soyuz launcher is also helping to launch a rival to the USA's GPS with a new European system called Galileo, Russia still holds one of the most powerful strategic forces on the planet.

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    I've read and seen videos of Russian recruits being abused and beaten by superiors, is this still a major problem?
    This has not been a post cold war problem... this problem has been present for a very long time and is not as great as it is sensationalised in the media. It is still a problem but the Soviet and now Russian tradition of combining soldiers into units with different levels of training (ie mixing old and new recruits) is where the problem lies. The old hands got treated a certain way and they treat the new recruits that way too.

    In the early 90s there was no money. Now there is some money filtering through. They have flak jackets, and their rifles work just fine, so they are better off than some major armies.

    Since Russia is the largest country on the planet you would think that with all of the resources (potential money) they have they could fix their military problems...
    Asset rich means nothing when it comes time to pay the bills, but things are certainly improving. They haven't sold all the silverware to pay the bills so they have avoided one of the pitfalls of bankruptsy.

    Lack of active financial help from the west (ie with loans only seeming to be available to destroy weapons the west perceived as a threat) the Russians don't feel they owe the west anything, which is good. The last thing the world needs is another US lackey. In fact they now have a new perspective on capitalism and democracy that the west lacks. There is certainly order and structure under communism. Equally pure capitalism where western oil companies come in and buy up Russias oil and then the profits from the oil go to foreign companies would not be a good thing for Russia. They have taken steps to ensure that Russia's wealth remains Russia's wealth. Something I am sure a few Aftican and Middle Eastern countries would love to have done, but corruption at the top means all the profits go west except for those few in power when the deals were done who also make a nice chunk of change out of the deals.

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    If oil prices keep this high then give them a few more years and they might make it up there.

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    ^^ Where is that ? Chechnya ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by JVeld View Post
    ^^ Where is that ? Chechnya ????
    Yes, from Grozny.

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    interesting, but nevertheless dont think that it really represents the satate of the Russian armed forces now in days !
    I been reading and actually seen a lot of videos and pictures and the Russian forces appear to be on a come back....in a big part thanks to petrodollars, but lately they have increased their defence budget about 20-25%, ordered new equipment (tanks,planes,rockets)....are starting to project power outside their own backyard for the first time since the Soviet collapse ( Lebbanon ) so I think they are well on the come back trail ......

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    a huge problem is corruption, now and especially in the 90s the money was being stolen by everybody as much as possible,

    Russia in theory should be one of the richest countries in the world, but its not so because of corruption, almost everyone can be bought or sold which is not good at all

    but Putin is trying to battle it at the moment, will take lots of time and effort though, hopefully he or his successor will succeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardpresident View Post
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    Any evidence that that is in fact, a Russian tank? Could easily be a Chechen one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymosity View Post
    Any evidence that that is in fact, a Russian tank? Could easily be a Chechen one.
    I don't think Chechnya has their own tank, or any other kind of major military hardware, there all just mostly terrorists with small arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerBD View Post
    I don't think Chechnya has their own tank, or any other kind of major military hardware, there all just mostly terrorists with small arms.
    there was a good pile of weapons + armor that was left to chechnya in 1992

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    OMG!! thats is price less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trace View Post
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    you are truly enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trace View Post
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    You do know thats not even an argument? Where are your points? You just made jabs here and there, that isnt an argument, thats called trolling.

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