Evangelicals got owned
This is going to be funny. A new book doesn't tell anyone who's paid attention to politics anything new: that Republicans don't give a horse's ass about Christian policies, just that they keep voting Republican. But the author knows what he's talking about. He was the no. 2 official in Bush's faith-based initiative office.
And I heard this little part involving one Karl Rove.President Bush's top political advisers privately ridiculed evangelical supporters as "nuts" and "goofy" while embracing them in public and using their votes to help win elections.
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In the book, Kuo, who quit the White House in 2003, accuses Karl Rove's political staff of cynically hijacking the faith-based initiatives idea for electoral gain. It assails Bush for failing to live up to his promises of boosting the role of religious organizations in delivering social services.
White House strategists "knew 'the nuts' were politically invaluable, but that was the extent of their usefulness," Kuo writes, according to the cable channel MSNBC, which obtained an advance copy.
"Sadly, the political affairs folks complained most often and most loudly about how boorish many politically involved Christians were. ... National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as 'ridiculous' and 'out of control.'
My sympathies to the Religious Right over what must be a trying time for them, discovering that they've been had for a good number of years.He says the Faith-Based office wasn't even set up during the 2001 transition until Mr. Bush took office and Karl Rove gave a transition volunteer less than one week to roll out the entire Faith-Based Initiative.
The volunteer asked how he should do that, without staff, without an office, or without even a plan.
According to Kuo, "Rove looked at him, took a deep breath, and said, "I don't know. Just get me a f–ing faith-based thing. Got it?"
I hate to say it because it's crude, but it's the same thing the Democrats traditionally do with the minority vote. ie black people. It really should come as no surprise that the leaders are not the true believers. Only the ones that know how to manipulate the true believers. There are a lot of stupid people out there that are just looking for a cause.
lol this is old dude. your ****ing sad.
do you think we honestly expect all republicans to be faith based or support it? LOL. thats like telling the black voters "do you really think all dems give a rats ass about the black mans plight?" hell no. next your going to break the massive news "politicians are snakes" my God, im shaking!
nice post calijoe. It is very much the same thing dem's do with the minority vote.
Most evangelicals dont paticulary like this admin., they just find it impossible to vote for a democrat. At least thats what I have heard them say a number of times.
Its what alot of leaders try to do, manipulate. What do you think propaganda is for?
WOW! and this just before an election too! I'm glad I found out now! I think I will marginalize my vote right now!!!!
ouch! ... ... ... but so trueOriginally Posted by California Joe
[quote=California Joe;1997591]I hate to say it because it's crude, but it's the same thing the Democrats traditionally do with the minority vote. ie black people. It really should come as no surprise that the leaders are not the true believers. Only the ones that know how to manipulate the true believers.
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Well said, and this goes for every government on earth
Amen brother.There are a lot of stupid people out there that are just looking for a cause.
This planet is lousy with flag waving, armband wearing, bible thumping, soap box standing on, just gotta be right and make you wrong, tamborine beating
Motherfvkers. And deep down they don't really give a sh*t what cause it is,
as long as there is something they can be right about.
Last edited by RECON DOC; 10-14-2006 at 03:11 PM.
Democrats think christian conservatives are stupid from the Mark Foley scandal to Kerry 'outing' Cheney's daughter on national tv. Like either of those cases would cause us to not vote or even worse, vote for dems.
I don't care if every republican were secular because when the democrats are out of power they're hysterical but in power their stupidity puts this country in grave danger.
The whole point is to suppress the conservative vote, nothing more.
I agree with California Joe. The Democrats see blacks as useful idiots.
They pay homage during election year cycles then simply discard them
until the next election cycle. You don't see the Democrats doing the
photo op' thing with Jesse, Al or Louis any other time. They don't
step foot in a black church, a black business or any other gathering
unless it's an election year.
Both parties are playing to the Hispanic vote in the same way. In the
not-too-distant future the Asian and/or Muslim vote will get the same
sheet of music.
Gee thats funny, Bush put two conservatives on the supreme court, signed a bill banning partial birth abortions and stems cells. I think that sounds like a very fundamental Christian agenda which I as a Catholic am happy with. I think Bush has been agreat friend to Christians and people of other faiths.
I think what some of you are doing is lumping Bush and Republicans together as one unified group when it comes to "policy" concerning the Christian or religious vote. Every individual Republican will have their own view when it comes to where religion rates in their priorities. I am sure many see the religious lobbiests as a bit "nuts." Religion is a form of politics after all.
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