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    My nieces and nephew are 8, 11, 13, and 16. They all know that guns are not toys. I have taught them that. I taught safety rules and proper weapons handling. They don't view it as a toy because it goes bang! They know it's loud and powerful and not to be taken lightly.

    If you want to talk about kid and firearm safety go start one in PD&R. This thread is about firearms build.
    I got my first one at about 5 years old a .22 pump my dad bought it when I was born. I tell him everyday how much i appreciate teaching be about guns and how to respect them and the laws that surround them. He brought my older brother a mac-10 before the ban in the early eighties about a week before the ban for 300$ then the value Quadrupled. I wish he gave me one of those instead. My brother used his for his homes down payment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Createdeemcee View Post
    How much did they charge you for the trinion installations?? Also are you going select fire with this Mr. Lee??

    the total bill came to about 350 plus for cutting the rear of the receiver to fit the folding trunnion and also ti install the front trunnion and also stock locking latch on the side.

    I am do it as a semi only weapon.

    and my dad is Mr. Lee.. Please call me Chen.

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    the total bill came to about 350
    Wow, that in itself is more than half the cost of a brand new 74. I was in the same boat when building. I didnt know where to turn since the whole reason for making one was to beat the cost of a completed rifle. I wanted to make a ak74u and while reading the ATF restrictions I found out that I needed a longer barrel. That lead to issues since I wanted the sbr. I canned the whole project. The kit I bout for the build was 450 in itself back then. I see them going for ateast 600$ now. I wish i held on to it. Once I get my own workshop I think Ill try it again.

    Thanks for the info Chen.

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    I Want to see this Badly when it's complete Chen, Please post her in all her glory as soon as it is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Createdeemcee View Post
    Wow, that in itself is more than half the cost of a brand new 74. I was in the same boat when building. I didnt know where to turn since the whole reason for making one was to beat the cost of a completed rifle. I wanted to make a ak74u and while reading the ATF restrictions I found out that I needed a longer barrel. That lead to issues since I wanted the sbr. I canned the whole project. The kit I bout for the build was 450 in itself back then. I see them going for ateast 600$ now. I wish i held on to it. Once I get my own workshop I think Ill try it again.

    Thanks for the info Chen.
    the biggest cost is the cutting of the receiver and locking latch for the folder, it is a bitch and I figure better have it done by some one professional.

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    These are the first two Polish Ak underfolders that I built. The cost was the Kit + $20 USD for the flat, rails and rivets. (total about $200.00) Prices are higher now.

    The Romanina Side folders cost Total about $160.00 to build that was everything. Including about $50 in US compliance parts.
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    Nice stuff Hollis.

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    Those are real nice HOLLis, they have Polish underfolder parts kits at AimSurplus at the moment for $209.

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    http://tapco.com/catalog.aspx?id=242

    This is Tapcos receiver flat page. Somebody makes a formed receiver, I believe it is a FFL item. Maybe ask SMGLee. The Tapco flats are not a FFL item.

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    I'm not sure if this URL still works but have a look at this chaps buildup of a 74.
    http://www.headsbunker.com/html/blog.html

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    Next step on the AK build.



    Next part rivets are removed from the trunnion and rear stock holder. There are two rivets on each side of the chamber. they are drilled out, using a drill smaller than the rivet diameter. Then a small burr is used to clean out the cavity. The cavity allow the rivet to expand and hold.

    The receiver has been fitted to trunnion and rear stock peace. It will be heat treated and final shaping will take place. If I had made a jig for this, this would have been a lot easier. But a jig takes a long time to make, and for few AK builds not worth the effort
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    What's the normal turn over from start to finish on one of these HOLLis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezah View Post
    What's the normal turn over from start to finish on one of these HOLLis?

    Maybe 2-4 hours, except waiting for things to cool down or dry. I have about 45 minutes in the project so far. A good jig could take a day to build and set up. and it would cut about 1/2 off the project and do a slightly better job on the bends in the valley.

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    2-4hrs from start to finish a complete build???

    If that's the case, man that is sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezah View Post
    2-4hrs from start to finish a complete build???

    If that's the case, man that is sweet.
    Sometimes my biggest waste of time is finding things. Also errors take time.

    The flat receiver comes drilled and dimpled....... that saves a lot time. You bend, spot weld the rails, heat treat and then rivets parts in to place, the finish (paint/coat/blue).

    AK are pretty low tolerance and all the hard stuff is already done, almost as easy as assembling a AR from parts, Stripped lower receiver.

    I just heat treated the receiver that was 5 min. but 25 minutes looking for the butane torch, never did find it, so I used the Oxy/Acty Cutting torch.

    In another 1/2 hour I should be ready to for firing/adjustments then apply the finish to the metal.

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