oh, ok. Which teams are 1 and 5 then?Originally Posted by UDTWOLF
No, are you thinking of MARSOC that was integrated into SOCOM back in 2003.
oh, ok. Which teams are 1 and 5 then?
SEAL TEAMS 1 & 5
MARSOC is a completely different group made up of the best Marines and sailors from Force Recon & Recon Bn.
ok cool, I moderate the equipment and gear, and airsoft sections.
Have the marines been using the socom 16 too or just the socom seal teams?
No the Marines have not been. They don't even use an M14 at all. They stick with the M40 mainly.
Have you heard of any other units using it? Any rumors that they might make it official?
Are you talking about S/S? Or Marines Corps in general?
No I haven't heard of any other units using them or any rumors on making it official. If it were up to me I would say yes though. I am sold on it and I take it to the range when we do training all the time. I do know that they were in very high demand for awhile there after coming out and you couldn't even buy one as a civilian because of the military and government agencies placing such high orders for them. That is also why they raised the price.
1) You are talking the Springfield M1A SOCOM 16 yes? If so I find it surprising that ST1 are trialing it when I have seen them, more recntly then 2004, using the Mark 14 Mod 0 EBR operationally in the box.
2) Again surprising due to the apparant success of the EBR.
3) Ditto.
4) Again very surprising. Last imagery I saw of FBI SWAT out of the LA Field Office they were using MP5s and M4s. The way the Bureau works, I understood that individual Field Offices have difficulty accessing non standard weapons and equipment. They also tend to follow HRT's lead. Hadn't heard about HRT adopting the SOCOM either.
5) But it has a 16" barrel. This isn't especially condusive to the levels of accuracy LE snipers require. I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding why LE snipers would go for a short barrel CQBised battle rifle as a viable sniping platform.
6) Extensive experience on the range? On the two way range?
Many thanks for your time
I'm talking about SS, I'm sure that they have to have some laying around somewhere on base though. But also as far as I know the Marines period dont use them or even have any in the armory. I called around asking in 04 to try and get some 20 round mags for it and not one armory on Camp Pendleton had any.
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So you're a Marine? Good to have another of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children on the boards!
1.) Are you sure that it wasn't the SOCOM16? They do all types of modifications to it so it may look different or sometimes because of the modifying they change the name.
2.) Yes they had success with the EBR but it may just be like i said in number 1.
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4.) Yes they do use the MP5 and M4's along with .45 for a pistol, their snipers atleast the ones I worked with used the stoner and had a large order in for this weapon at that time.
5.) I'm telling you bro the accuracy is great with this gun even with the length.
6.) Experience on the range yes, in field, and on deployment.
No problem....
My buddy wants to join the Marines, he's going to the recruiter after he graduates.
He wants to be a USMC medic, but I told him to try and be a sniper. Any idea what he can expect if he wants to do either of those jobs?
1) Yep pretty sure it was the EBR.
2) Yes I guess it may be but why wouldn't they call the Mark 14 the EBR and type classify the SOCOM 16? Still this is the Navy right?
4) Oh okay you've worked with FBI SWAT out of LA? I was going from some imagery so fair enough man, if you've seen it on the streets.
5) Still surprised by the accuracy thing but I've never played with it. I thought the whole point of the SOCOM 16 was as a 'patrol carbine' or as a CQB styled battle rifle? I wouldn't have thought 16" does it on anything over 150-200 metres?
6) You've deployed with the SOCOM 16? Sandbox or Astan bro?
cheers man
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