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    Default Why the mixed camo in desert areas?

    Why does the US military put on a woodland-camo vest over a desert-camo BDU? As seen in Iraq and other desert conflicts.

    The best reason I can think of is, to make the rest of the body blend in, and only allow the torso area to stand out, as this is the area which has armour. Attracting hits to the armoured-area, rather than the critical points (head) and limbs, where there is no armour.

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    Maybe it's too expensive to produce a desert version of everything.

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    No desert pattern vests...

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    Default Re: Why the mixed camo in desert areas?

    Quote Originally Posted by exoninja
    Why does the US military put on a woodland-camo vest over a desert-camo BDU? As seen in Iraq and other desert conflicts.

    The best reason I can think of is, to make the rest of the body blend in, and only allow the torso area to stand out, as this is the area which has armour. Attracting hits to the armoured-area, rather than the critical points (head) and limbs, where there is no armour.
    I think its cost, but thats pretty good reasoning. i was wondering the same thing, I can't believe I didn't think of what you said earlier...

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    I also think that is a matter of costs.
    Remember the first days of the invasion, where many soldiers were even wearing regular Woodland BDUs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by weedman
    I also think that is a matter of costs.
    Remember the first days of the invasion, where many soldiers were even wearing regular Woodland BDUs ?
    Yes, but they had desert-camo helmets on.
    Could also be, according to my theory, they don't want to attract attention to the head?

    And weren't those ,with woodland BDUs, non-combat units? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exoninja
    And weren't those ,with woodland BDUs, non-combat units? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Can be true, I'm not the expert in this

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    Quote Originally Posted by exoninja
    and weren't those ,with woodland BDUs, non-combat units? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    You're wrong.

    Temperate colours were worn by choice in Kurdistan/Northern Iraq.

    US MOP suits, unlike UK NBC suits were largely unavailable in desert cam. Mixed temperate and desert DPM is often used by choice as it blends better in scrubby terrain (where there often is significant vegitation) than desert colours.

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    I know in the case of UK forces its a lack of budget and logistics support, or at least it was at first. I'm guessing in general that a mix of desert and forest type camo helps to further break up the outline of a human form in the sort of mixed terrain you get in Iraq and indeed Afghanistan. Greens and sandy colours are common even in urban areas there.

    edit - beaten to it as usual. I won't bother correcting myself though

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    Well, I have a 3 color desert cover that slips over my older model PASGT vest. They are out there, but the guys who are out fighting (I'm not dissing support units, relax) get the good stuff first.

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    I don't understand why the U.S. military cannot seem to coordinate its color schemes, it is inexplicable! I went to O.I.F with COMPLETELY woodland pattern uniform and German boots!!!!!!I am currently collecting tri-desert gear so that if I go back I will have descent gear! Oh, yeah they wanted to attach me to 3rd I.D. with no desert gear!!!??? I would have stood out like a turd in a punchbowl!!!!!! At least the Marines made an effort during their current deployment to get the camo scheme right!!!!

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    turd in a punchbowl..that's funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal
    Quote Originally Posted by exoninja
    and weren't those ,with woodland BDUs, non-combat units? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    You're wrong.

    Temperate colours were worn by choice in Kurdistan/Northern Iraq.

    US MOP suits, unlike UK NBC suits were largely unavailable in desert cam. Mixed temperate and desert DPM is often used by choice as it blends better in scrubby terrain (where there often is significant vegitation) than desert colours.
    There's your answer right there. Look more closely at what they are wearing and you will see that it is a MOPP suit.

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    Another question: Why do (usually) American soldiers have their trigger-wrist (the hand holding the pistol grip) curved inwards at "fruity"-looking angle?

    Is it quicker that way to draw up your gun and aim? Or does it look disarming, like "I don't want to shoot you?"

    This is kind of what I mean, I've seen it even weirder.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearin
    Quote Originally Posted by Royal
    Quote Originally Posted by exoninja
    and weren't those ,with woodland BDUs, non-combat units? Correct me if I'm wrong.
    You're wrong.

    Temperate colours were worn by choice in Kurdistan/Northern Iraq.

    US MOP suits, unlike UK NBC suits were largely unavailable in desert cam. Mixed temperate and desert DPM is often used by choice as it blends better in scrubby terrain (where there often is significant vegitation) than desert colours.
    There's your answer right there. Look more closely at what they are wearing and you will see that it is a MOPP suit.
    I realized it the 1st day.
    But there are still many NOT wearing MOPP who have mixed camo.

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