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    Default (UK)Knife amnesties 'have no effect'

    Knife amnesties have no real impact on reducing knife crime, according to a Metropolitan Police report.

    An eight-week Met Police amnesty over the summer showed that, after a slight dip in knife-related crime, levels were back to normal within weeks, it said.

    Pre-amnesty there were an average of 34.9 daily knife offences in London, dropping to 31 in the amnesty. Six weeks later, that figure was 34.2.

    The report was obtained by the BBC under the Freedom of Information act.

    More than 100,000 knives were handed into police forces in England, Scotland and Wales this summer during a five-week nationwide campaign and the amnesty was declared a success by ministers.

    But an analysis of the concurrent but longer eight-week amnesty by the Metropolitan Police - between May and July - appears to question the effectiveness of the operation.

    The report said "no changing trends" had been visible during the first five weeks of the operation from 15 May.

    For the final three weeks of the operation and in the following weeks "a small downward trend appeared".

    "In late August 2006 - six weeks after the operation ends - offence levels tend to return to pre-operation values", the report adds.

    A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said the force always recognised that a knife amnesty on its own was of limited effectiveness in tackling knife crime.

    Amnesties needed to be used in conjunction with other initiatives, the spokesman added.
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    I've been saying it all along, these amnesties don't do diddly especially when the only people bringing knives in are old grannies.

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    I remember some 'will someone please think of the children' hysterical women schmuckess suggesting after a recent stabbing they should ban the sale of kitchen knives here....

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    Nope. The kitchen utensil ban was called for by a group of "leading" NHS physicians and published in a formerly respectable medical journal.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4581871.stm

    what's next, power tools?

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    As much as I hate to agree with 'Mister Britanophobe' banning anything that could be used as weapon is ridiculous. There are already laws in place about carrying knives on the street.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom06 View Post
    As much as I hate to agree with 'Mister Britanophobe' banning anything that could be used as weapon is ridiculous. There are already laws in place about carrying knives on the street.
    Hmm.. A Britton suggesting that enforcement of existing laws is preferable to punitive and draconian restrictions of civil liberties? Most unusual. Mayhaps the UK had no general prohibitions of gun and knife crime before the handgun ban and knife amnesty? Oh damn.. I guess it did. There goes that theory.

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    The knife amnesty was always hilarious. How on earth was it supposed to be pulled off?

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    The UK laws on gun control & now knife control make me crack up...unbelievable

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    Im glad you mooved here Geezah, I couldnt imagine you with out any ARM in your possession. Life for shooters must truely suck there. I guess the guy's in the armed forces there have fun while they can then when its over its over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk View Post
    Hmm.. A Britton suggesting that enforcement of existing laws is preferable to punitive and draconian restrictions of civil liberties? Most unusual. Mayhaps the UK had no general prohibitions of gun and knife crime before the handgun ban and knife amnesty? Oh damn.. I guess it did. There goes that theory.

    Back to your padded hamster ball.
    At the moment I prefer my padded cell, although that does look cool-New Zealand invention I believe..

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    ^Oh, I was...........I had my trusty pointed stick on me at all times, I even applied and got my PSL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPLHUNTER View Post
    The UK laws on gun control & now knife control make me crack up...unbelievable
    Some states in the US have also implemented controls on certain knives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacilluspolymyxa View Post
    Some states in the US have also implemented controls on certain knives.
    We've been down this road before and I think I supplied info to counter your claim, I even went so far as asking for information from the Met in reference to the knives you carry

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    Why are they collecting tools from people?

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    Well the baseball bat is considered a weapon in Poland, you can't buy it. Well since nobody plays it here the thing was quite a handy tool for the mafia and homegrown gangstaz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daily666 View Post
    Well the baseball bat is considered a weapon in Poland, you can't buy it. Well since nobody plays it here the thing was quite a handy tool for the mafia and homegrown gangstaz.


    Holy ****. It's like very hard to go to the woods, cut a tree and then make your own club. What else is banned in Poland? I hope EU doesn't try to start to force these stupid laws on it's member countries or I'm going to revolt.

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