HeliRussia 2008, Russia’s first chopper exhibition
Originally Posted by TheArmenian
Thx for the good news Armenian
I visited the NEUSTRASYCHMY in Lisbon back in 2004, very nice looking ship, very well armed!!!
I hope the MUDRY goes to sea soon, and hope the 3rd unit is completed soon!
congratz to the Russian Navy
[QUOTE][/QUIts a new thermal sight called 'Шахин' (Shahin) from ОАО ЦНИИ «Циклон».It was developed together with the Swiss company 'Vectorix' AG.OTE]
So I think right. This is good step forward for russian infantry. They could be used for squad weapons like MG, sniper rifle and RPG. For others in squad II night sights are enough.
Is this ATGMs "Ataka" on the outside pylons?
Dear Member,
You are misunderstanding me. I am not talking about the acts of war done in passion. A lot of what he talks about is done in the rear areas. I have a lot of relatives that served in the US Army and US Marines during Vietnam. And there was never whole sale beatings of the lower ranks and never starvation. And usually the only time there was any physical abuse was during basic training (6 weeks). And that was pretty well limited to the US Marines -- ie those that joined the Marines expected it (the movie FULL METAL JACKET shows it well). But even that came no where near to what the author explained in the Russian Army: in the US military you obey all lawful orders and do you best, you were never hit. And in the Marines only one person hits anyone during basic training (except when he authorizes it like in the case of that one Marine in FULL METAL JACKET) and that is the Drill Instructor. And even with the Marines, once he graduates from what is called "boot camp" any physical violence by his Sgts ends (officers never touch another enlisted in the US military -- ie it would end his military career).
I just hope what the author described is no longer the norm in the Russian Army today. Because that means those that an army needs most (in good physical, mental and education level) will some how avoid service. And worst, soldiers that are treated that badly can become that "countries" worst nightmare in the future.
What the author describes, the closes thing you could come to is a US prison where street gangs members are a large percentage of the population -- example California state.
Finally, but there is a lesson in the Vietnam War also for the Russian Army maybe. After that war -- ie and even during -- the US Army (and other services) got to the bottom of the issue of drug use and other abuses. It was done in the open with the news media having full access to what was being investigated and done. Heads in the officer corps rolled big time and in the Marines there was a gutting of a lot of their Sgts. Has the Russian Army done the same since the end of the USSR and the 1990s??????
Jack E. Hammond
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Last edited by jackehammond; 05-20-2008 at 01:17 PM.
Folks,
Recent newspaper article. The French Foreign Legion is getting a lot of its new recruits from Eastern Europe including Russia. The recruits from Western Europe and the Americas (including those that served in their home countries military) just can't meet the standards. But they had one problem with the Russian recruits during basic training: They did not realize they were in basic training and kept asking when they would be sent to a basic training platoon as their recruiter told them. On Russian recruit even got smacked in the side of the head by his training corporal when he asked this question, because the FFL corporal thought he was being a smart a**! One Russian recruit who spoke French some what asked to speak to the corporal and explained his Russian friend was not being smart and why? So now when they arrive they have a Russian speaking corporal explain that this is basic training and this will be the worst they will be treated. The Russian recruits are totally surprised as they see the treatment as being sort of "soft"! during basic training.
The one problem with the influx of many recruits from Eastern Europe and Russia is that they realize they will eventually become corporals and Sgts. When they reach this rank they make it clear to them "Yes, you can hit a private every now and then." but there is a limit to it.
Finally, I don't know if it has changed, but in Western Europe, the worst military organizations you could join as far as treatment of the enlisted was the French Foreign Legion and the worst the Spanish Foreign Legion (the Spanish Foreign Legion does not take non-Spaniards technically anymore). The French Foreign Legion now has 6 applications for each recruit they take. So the need to use physical force on a large scale is no longer needed. The Spanish Foreign Legion I have no idea. And with the SFL anyone who joins an organization whose official motto is "Long Live Death" should expect what ever they get and not complain.
Jack E. Hammond
Note> Forgot one item: Both the FFL and the SFL have a good percentage of members from Black Africa. Especially the FFL. The problem is -- ie as the FFL officers discovered -- those FFL members from Eastern Europe and Russia do not like Blacks no matter the country, etc. It is not such a big problem during basic training, but it becomes a "big" problem after they are assigned to their permanent unit. The nonAfrican members of the SSL though get along fine with the Blacks. It is those from North Africa who are Moslem that they have the problem with.
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Last edited by jackehammond; 05-20-2008 at 02:09 PM.
Good pics Armenian, but I was under the impression that the likely hood of the 3rd Neustrashimy being completed is slim at best, despite the considerable work already done. The fact that funds were found for the second one already surprised me!
Wou,thanks Armenian! Interesting photos man!
My friend sent me their newest photos from the training (Storming a train)
I just sent them 10 pairs of tactical goggles, and they have received it yesterday. THANK YOU oswald for help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here are some from last weeks training
Great pictures - thanks!
Are these guys in Chechnya still?? Or back at home?I just sent them 10 pairs of tactical goggles, and they have received it yesterday. THANK YOU oswald for help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting use of the Makarov pistol (PM). I think a lot of people in the West believe it's a badge of rank and not a "combat" weapon in the same sense as the Beretta M92. That soldier with his Makarov drawn certainly suggests otherwise.
Amazing pictures! mirowoe!
Cool photos Romka! Are they guns reloaded? (real bullets inside) Sorry for my great english!
Some parade photos!
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