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Does anyone know, if upgraded Mig-31BM will have AESA radar or upgraded PESA?

PESA

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This thread should be sticky now,serious!!

congrats!

They announced principal elemnts of the BM package some 4 years ago. Amongst them was Zaslon-M so definitely PESA. Which is not at all compromising given intended nature of service of the entire platform (AESA with diameter of 1 meter would reqire quite a powerful coolant system and have ranges of detection close to those of AWACS suite wich is kind of overkill IMO). The new radar is said to be cabale of detecting and stable tracking of targets with low limit hypersonic speeds, up to 6M, having complicated trajectories, read manuvarable, among more conventional aerodynamic targets. Maximum detection range is ~350km. Plus there are economic reasons.
Upgraded cockpit:

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They announced principal elemnts of the BM package some 4 years ago. Amongst them was Zaslon-M so definitely PESA. Which is not at all compromising given intended nature of service of the entire platform (AESA with diameter of 1 meter would reqire quite a powerful coolant system and have ranges of detection close to those of AWACS suite wich is kind of overkill IMO). The new radar is said to be cabale of detecting and stable tracking of targets with low limit hypersonic speeds, up to 6M, having complicated trajectories, read manuvarable, among more conventional aerodynamic targets. Maximum detection range is ~350km. Plus there are economic reasons.
Upgraded cockpit:

All i know is the MiG-31BM will have an upgraded Zaslon with some Zaslon-M components and an new software.The antenna will be still the old one.Never heard anything about AESA for MiG-31,but the idea sounds good.
Also,how is the BM program doing?Are there some upgraded planes?

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heh, just increase size of Irbis and put it in there. You would get some insane figures.

and yeah, there are a couple of BMs in a AF testing center.

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All i know is the MiG-31BM will have an upgraded Zaslon with some Zaslon-M components and an new software.The antenna will be still the old one.Never heard anything about AESA for MiG-31,but the idea sounds good.
Also,how is the BM program doing?Are there some upgraded planes?

I meant to say elements of Zaslon-M, sorry. First upgraded plane was spotted in Zhukovski receiving new electronics as early as 1999. Some time later RuAF General in Command even announced that entire fleet of Foxhounds was going to be upgraded to BM standard by 2010, but then any public info regarding the project was cut off. My guess would be that Kamchatka Air Group (forgot unit name) in charge of covering Pacific Fleet central submarine base has recieved upgraded planes, but again, no solid numbers to trust to.

heh, just increase size of Irbis and put it in there. You would get some insane figures.

I'm afraid it's not how it works... they would end up creating whole new electronic and software suite anyway. That would be quite a feat given sorrow state of current Russian science and manufacturing technology level.

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I meant to say elements of Zaslon-M, sorry. First upgraded plane was spotted in Zhukovski receiving new electronics as early as 1999. Some time later RuAF General in Command even announced that entire fleet of Foxhounds was going to be upgraded to BM standard by 2010, but then any public info regarding the project was cut off. My guess would be that Kamchatka Air Group (forgot unit name) in charge of covering Pacific Fleet central submarine base has recieved upgraded planes, but again, no solid numbers to trust to.


I'm afraid it's not how it works... they would end up creating whole new electronic and software suite anyway. That would be quite a feat given sorrow state of current Russian science and manufacturing technology level.

What sorrow state? Their science industry is as strong as ever, but the manufacturing state is going slow.

In any case, the BM's package is going to be huge for air defense of the Russian federation, but being it that Russia's air guard force isn't big enough (only 250 something mig-31bm's, for all of Russia), they will need to use other planes as well, which brings me to the question "would the SU-35BM suffice as an interceptor?"

Also, since the CSTO forces have now been accumulated, and the presence of a competition to NATO, would that give permission for Russia to guard other territories, such as Belarus and such? I doubt Belarus and Kazakhstan has the airforce and surface to air equipment capable of taking down modern aircrafts, unlike Russia.

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What sorrow state? Their science industry is as strong as ever, but the manufacturing state is going slow.

In any case, the BM's package is going to be huge for air defense of the Russian federation, but being it that Russia's air guard force isn't big enough (only 250 something mig-31bm's, for all of Russia), they will need to use other planes as well, which brings me to the question "would the SU-35BM suffice as an interceptor?"

Also, since the CSTO forces have now been accumulated, and the presence of a competition to NATO, would that give permission for Russia to guard other territories, such as Belarus and such? I doubt Belarus and Kazakhstan has the airforce and surface to air equipment capable of taking down modern aircrafts, unlike Russia.

Belarus is quite capable - they do have S-300 complexes, around 40 mig-29s and 20-30 SU-27s. That being said, integrated air defense is still costing Russia around 20 billion.

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Belarus is quite capable - they do have S-300 complexes, around 40 mig-29s and 20-30 SU-27s. That being said, integrated air defense is still costing Russia around 20 billion.

A lot, but that is why they have top of the line....and lots of em. To protect their airspace. old mig 29's and Su-27's are not really sufficient, they need at l

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What sorrow state? Their science industry is as strong as ever, but the manufacturing state is going slow.

In any case, the BM's package is going to be huge for air defense of the Russian federation, but being it that Russia's air guard force isn't big enough (only 250 something mig-31bm's, for all of Russia), they will need to use other planes as well, which brings me to the question "would the SU-35BM suffice as an interceptor?"

Also, since the CSTO forces have now been accumulated, and the presence of a competition to NATO, would that give permission for Russia to guard other territories, such as Belarus and such? I doubt Belarus and Kazakhstan has the airforce and surface to air equipment capable of taking down modern aircrafts, unlike Russia.

Belarus does have capable systems such as the S-300, MiG-29 & Su-27. I doubt there are the latest models but there is always the oppurtunity to upgrade them; there were also talks about deploying the S-400 system in Belarus. There may not be all that many interceptors and fighters, but a larger proportion of them would probably be operable and in good condition compared to Russia's. Belarus was about the only country that managed to largely preserve its military and military-industrial complex following the fall of the USSR.

As for Kazakhstan, they have largely the same inventory as Belarus, with older to semi-modern versions of the S-300, MiG-29 & Su-27, although in their case I would imagine a considerable amount to have been mothballed by now. Interestingly they also have MiG-31's, the only country apart from Russia to possess them. Now if only their MiG-31's found themselves awaiting BM modernisations...

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No need to upgrade Belarussian MiG-29s, they are already all (or almost all) at BM standard.

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What sorrow state? Their science industry is as strong as ever, but the manufacturing state is going slow.

In any case, the BM's package is going to be huge for air defense of the Russian federation, but being it that Russia's air guard force isn't big enough (only 250 something mig-31bm's, for all of Russia), they will need to use other planes as well, which brings me to the question "would the SU-35BM suffice as an interceptor?"

Also, since the CSTO forces have now been accumulated, and the presence of a competition to NATO, would that give permission for Russia to guard other territories, such as Belarus and such? I doubt Belarus and Kazakhstan has the airforce and surface to air equipment capable of taking down modern aircrafts, unlike Russia.

Strong as ever... Years of grab-n-run political agenda destroyed the educational system, average age of engineers employed by firms developing military gear is in upper 50's, same goes for most universities (with the exception of MGU, Bauman's Academy and few other campuses) and nearly all grad schools (once one of the nation's top engineering schools- Volgograd Polytechnic State University is now so corrupt and derived of academic faculty that they offer degree in UFOlogy with state approved diploma!). National projects like Buran or exploration of mid-Siberian region are not even remotely possible. We can't even build new Tu-160 from scratch because manufacture know-how of the centerplane monolith bearing beam is lost. And producing four Su-34s in roughly two years is now called a mass production. Out of these 4, no two planes have identical electronic suites (which are almost exclusively foreign produced and designed components). So yes through my eyes, the system is in rather degraded state compared to what it used to be in mid to late 80's and even early 90's.
Kazakh AF has/had Su-27S and MiG-31 in sizable numbers dunno whatever happened to these birds. And like other members already mentioned Belarus military is has some nasty teeth. Country's size is a plus here.