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They need the batons because they are shipboard security. I imagine the goggles are to help with sea spray or whatever when they are on duty.Originally Posted by HunterHunter
As I understand, Barmitsa kit is outdated now. The program was started in the 90's and resulted in the 6b12,6sh92,6b7 kit that VDV had in the early 2000's.
Now they're trying to replace with 6b23,6sh92-5,6b28 which you can see in Georgia. I don't know what the new kit's called though.
I'm total noob when it comes to infantry equipment, but this older uniform looks way better than that Yudashkin made abortion. It's too green and they probably didn't gather enough nature shots for computer to develop truly consistent pattern.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8029632.stmRussian army scraps new uniforms
plan to replace Soviet-era Russian military uniforms with ones by a leading fashion designer has been abandoned because of a lack of money.
The plan to bring in the new uniforms, designed by Valentin Yudashkin, was supported by Russian PM Vladimir Putin.
There is now only enough money to pay for uniforms for soldiers taking part in the forthcoming Victory Day parade.
Everyone else, it seems, will remain in the rather drab olive shades Russia inherited from the former Soviet Union.
'Less frumpy'
On Friday, Senator Viktor Ozerov, chairman of Russian Federation Council committee on defence and security, told the radio station Ekho Moskvy that the army knew what to spend money on - and that new uniforms were not a priority.
"I think that the uniforms which servicemen now wear make it possible to distinguish them from civilians," he said.
The new designs for the army uniforms come from Russia's leading fashion designer, Valentin Yudashkin.
They build on the uniforms of imperial Russia, with strong emphasis on red and blue colours, together with polished brass adornments for parade dress.
They are decidedly less frumpy than the oversized fur hats and foot wraps that still form part of the standard kit.
Prime Minister Putin was an admirer of Yudashkin's proposals and took a personal involvement in them while president.
The report that the new uniforms have fallen victim to Russia's own credit crunch suggests financial difficulties greater than those publicly acknowledged.
Russian defence spending has grown very quickly over recent years.
Before the global financial crisis hit, Russia's government had planned to spend more than $100bn (£67bn) on modernisation and re-armament projects.
The idea was to move away from a bloated, inefficient, often poorly trained military, and to focus on advanced technology, in military aviation and Russia's strategic nuclear rocket forces.
There is now a huge question mark over the project, with recent announcements of swingeing cuts in the officer corps and general staff.
This is good news.
I don't care too much about uniforms (no offence to all of you guys who give so much importance to how fashionable a soldier looks).
Spend the money on additional weapons and training. The old uniforms will still do the job.
Agreed. IMO, uniform has nothing to do with fashion. It's a part of fielded combat complex just like a rifle or radio comms or human operating within it. It must be designed to fulfill its task-conceal it's operator while being reasonably comfortable and enduring. Fashion is source of potential failure here, and if the uniform fails, especially in modern battlespace, it fails not just itself, but the entire complex, and most importantly person wearing it. Yudaskin's clothing, when worn on a body, looks like potato sack colored with green shaded squares. It desn't look pratical nor comfortable.
What you, don't understand is the Slavic (Russian) people made that nations, religon/economy all the other races just assemilated, or else they would have being killed.
1. Slavic != Russian,
2. Russians did not "create nations", the nations were there before, just joined/assimilated into/formed Russia
3. Nor did russians created their religion/economy, nations of Russia found their religions themselves, and russian economy was created together by those nations.
Wrong. They demanded only to speak Russian(and still - around 2 million people, if i remember correctly, in RF don't speak Russian at all or very bad) and you could keep your religion and culture. Russian Empire did not care about these things, Soviet Union as well. Or better - they were not that stupid to mess with these things, because they always explode in your face.
Aghm, Internationalism was key feature of Socialist sociocultural agenda,akhm. You misinterpret Zionist Orthodox Christian church of Russian empire encouraging racial division with anti-commie propaganda. And FYI if you think modern Russia is openly nationalist country, then I suggest you look up contemporary history of current world's mega power and the state it seceded from (and i don't mean just color issues. Friendly remainder No.2 read the title of this thread).
Edit. Term Russian is not understood in the same way, well this was the case when I was growing up, as it is abroad. To a person living in the West, Russian means strict race based, I once even heard a vegetarian who ate veggie soup being referred to as Russian and a possible commie, don't really see how this came out, identity. While in post-soviet Russia, can't say with confidence about current time, Russian is very fluid term when used in ethnics context, you might posses various physical features, not native to strictly Slavic Russ, and still be referred to as Russian by others connoting that you were indeed Russian by race. There are people who maybe born to Lithuanian and Armenian family, me being the case, and still be referring to themselves as Russian by heart and mind, as well as, no matter how odd it my sound at your end, by race. Russia cannot be racist state by definition, for there are over two hundred ethnicities populating it. If you are to consider that than Russia will have to shrink at least 4 times to be purely Russian, as it's probably perceived by you. None of them want it to happen, unless someone pays you lumpy sums and supplies you with specific ideology as has happened in North Caucasus.
Last edited by K-5; 05-02-2009 at 02:20 AM.
I don't get you. Maybe you misunderstood me. But never mind.
Russkies created Russia, from 988 A.D. -1917 A.D. thats what I was saying.
So they just happened to go there in 988 from somewhere else. Well, then you should really call them Greeks or Ukrainians.
They did care about, "Religon" (Orthodox Christianity) from 988 A.D. to 1917 A.D. after that came "Ashkanazi jewish communism"
Last edited by GROUND WAVE; 05-02-2009 at 03:53 PM.
What are you asking?
K-5,listen, i'm just saying nor Russian Empire, nor modern Russian Federation repressed ethnic identity, religion in their borders. SU tried to(religion), but later they abandoned the idea.
That's it.
Abd btw, chek your friendly remainder No. 2
I'm done.
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